April 9, 2013

Today, PTR Industries issued this statement and following communication.

A Statement Concerning Manufacturing Encouragement, Economic Growth, and Protection of the Constitutional Rights of Citizens.

This past week an historic and highly controversial bill was passed by the State of Connecticut which will have far reaching consequences to the state, its citizens,and businesses. The bill we refer to is Bill No. 1160, AN ACT CONCERNING GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND CHILDRENS SAFETY. This bill purports to reduce gun violence by banning hardware responsible for less than three percent of homicides in 2011 and claims to increase children’s safety by restricting the ability of those most responsible for it—their parents—to defend them.

PTR Industries

As a firearms manufacturing firm, our industrial roots reach deep in the State of CT. Along with other companies in the trade, we were deeply apprehensive at the hurried process to develop new gun laws and fearful that it would generate unintended consequences for our industry. On Thursday April 4, 2013, upon reading the full text of Bill 1160, our worst fears were confirmed. What emerged was a bill fraught with ambiguous definitions, insufficient considerations for the trade, conflicting mandates, and disastrous consequences for the fundamental rights of the people of CT.

The magnitude of the constitutional and economic importance of this bill is such that the disregard for public input (in the final version), and the haphazard production of the legislation should be insulting to any citizen or business in CT. It should be a shock to us all that such landmark legislation could be written in one week, and seen by no one (including the rank-and-file legislators) prior to its emergency certification. Having been present in the deliberations in both legislative chambers, it was clear that a majority of our legislators had not even read the bill- and those that had read it had only a cursory understanding.

The process with which this legislation proceeded, along with the language that resulted gives us no confidence that this will be the last violation of our rights in our beloved home state, and we only hope that this does not set a precedent at a national level.

The rights of the citizens of CT have been trampled upon. The safety of its children is at best questionably improved from the day of the tragedy that triggered the events that lead us here. Finally, due to an improperly drafted bill, manufacturing of modern sporting rifles in the State of CT has been effectively outlawed. With a heavy heart but a clear mind, we have been forced to decide that our business can no longer survive in Connecticut—the former Constitution state.

Furthermore, we feel that our industry as a whole will continue to be threatened so long as it remains in a state where its elected leaders have no regard for the rights of those who produce and manufacture its wealth. We are making a call to all involved in our industry to leave this state, close your doors and show our politicians the true consequences of their hasty and uninformed actions. We encourage those in our industry to abandon this state as its leaders have abandoned the proud heritage that forged our freedom.

Although PTR has not decided upon a specific relocation site at this time, over the coming weeks the company will be actively considering offers from states that are friendly to the industry. We hope to have a site identified within the next six weeks, and hope to have our move completed by the end of this year. We plan to keep our business partners informed on the status of our move throughout this process in order to affect a smooth transition.

We have extended the invitation to join us in the move to all of our employees, as well as all of our vendors. We are pleased to say that we currently have commitments to move from a majority of our employees, which includes ALL of our management personnel, engineering staff and skilled gunsmiths.

It is our hope and sincere belief that this move will represent a step forward for the company;and that by bringing our expertise and core personnel to combine with the business friendly policies, and a motivated local labor force from a state that respects industry and the second amendment that we can expand our operations and not only maintain- but increase the quality and reputation of our products.

Please direct any questions or inquiries to John McNamara, Vice President of Sales, at john@ptr91.com or by calling 860-676-1776.

 

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October 5, 2012

The $1.97 H&K G3 Grade II 20-round aluminum mil-surp magazines for the 7.62x51mm cartridge rate 4.5 on CTD!’s 5-bullet customer-review scale.

Members of our community aren’t shy about saying what they like — and don’t like — in the “Customer Review” areas of Cheaper Than Dirt’s web pages. Reviews from actual purchasers contain hands-on, specific advice about the pros and cons of products our customers spent hard-earned money on. Case in point: 345 members of the Cheaper Than Dirt community who have purchased certain H&K G3 magazines rate them 4.5 on Cheaper Than Dirt’s 5-bullet scale.

Cheaper Than Dirt obtained a huge quantity of H&K G3 magazines at a great price — these factory German H&K magazines for the Model 91 or G-3 .308 rifle are only $1.97. Of 345 customer reviews, 251 were 5 bullets (73%); 71 were 4 bullets (20%); 9 were 3 bullets (3%); 5 were 2 bullets (1%); and 9 were 1-bullet ratings (3%).

The magazines are Grade II, 20-round-capacity, aluminum-bodied military-surplus types. All military-surplus products are used. Grade II means each mag is in good condition, but may show minor use. The H&K G3 mags, product number MAG-304, also fit PTR-91 rifles, and can fit CETME rifles with some minor adjustments.

There are 69 pages of customer reviews on this product. Here’s a sampling of what the community had to say about the H&K G3 7.62x51mm magazines:

Reviewer RMacSTL wrote, “I have 50 of these. Fortunately, I got them when they were a buck each, but this is still a great deal. I estimate that 90% of them needed some work — nothing mechanical and no parts replacement — just steel wool, WD-40, and elbow grease. Remove the floor plate, spring, and follower and start scrubbing. After cleaning, I ran half of them through two different PTR-91s and had ZERO feed or ejection issues. Get them now and get a bunch! I gave them four bullets because I had to spend a couple of hours on them, but I’d do it again in a heartbeat.”

Reviewer Kevin Howard wrote, “This was my third order of these, and only one of the 28 was dented, but I repaired it. The rest were perfect. Great product. Will order more.”

Reviewer rybur wrote, “Bought six of these. Four were H&K, one was Rheinmetall, and one was Norwegian Kongsberg. The worst one was a ’75 H&K that was dinged in a few places and worn, but the follower is not obstructed and feeds fine. Another one had light rust on the follower and floor plate, but some oil cleaned it right up. For this price, I feel like I stole them. Buy a bunch before they run out. Now for some mag pouches.”

The similar Grade III H&K G3 7.62x51mm steel magazines (used, fair condition, show normal wear and tear from daily use) earned 90 customer reviews with an overall 4-bullet rating.

Reviewer HK guy wrote, “Cosmetically a little rough. Wear spots through the finish on some, others look new. For this cheap, I can’t complain.”

Reviewer Shadowproject wrote, “I ordered 10 of these, and received them very fast. All 10 showed some degree of minor wear, but that’s the key word – MINOR WEAR. Eight of them had just some cosmetic high edge wear from use, the other two had a couple small dents in the magazine body, but nothing that stopped them from functioning just fine. Six required nothing more than a fast wipe down with an oiled cloth, but the other four needed a little more attention and some dust removal. Sure, these aren’t the prettiest mint condition magazines for your safe queen, but they’re functional, and CHEAP! For the $$ I spent on these 10 magazines, I feel like I stole them.”

If you’ve purchased either of these magazines, we’d love to hear what you thought about them.

 

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March 27, 2012

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So you’ve always wanted a pre-ban, mint condition HK91 but don’t want to drop $2,500 on a collector piece? What if you could buy one for half as much, brand new, and made right here in the U.S.A.? What if the new one was actually better than the HK? You read that right. I said better.

PTR MSG91 Super Sniper

MSG91 Super Sniper: extreme accuracy, limited availability. Photos by PTR Industries.

PTR started making G3 “clones” 10 years ago, when they were called JLD Enterprises. JLD got their hands on genuine Heckler & Koch GmbH blueprints and tooling. This tooling and the correct specifications to use it makes all the difference, and it’s very hard to come by. I don’t know how JLD convinced Fabrica Militar to ship it all across the Atlantic Ocean from Portugal, but they pulled it off. Taking advantage of the great supply of surplus G3 parts floating around at the time, JLD began building G3 receivers to HK specifications on HK machinery, and fitting them to factory HK parts they could find. There were a few companies building G3 “clones” with a smattering of HK parts at that time, but only one that had real HK tooling for their U.S. made parts.

Soon, new condition surplus HK parts began to run dry and the other companies making G3 clones went out of business. HK stopped production of G3 rifles in 1997, so there was no chance of getting spare parts straight from the source. JLD endured, making more and more HK-spec parts here in the U.S. using the tooling brought from Portugal. At some point, a lightbulb went off and the Precision Target Rifle-91 was born. Why just make clones of a 1950s-technology rifle, when they had the power to bring the G3 into the 21st century with all the precision of modern CNC machinery? JLD changed their company name to PTR-91, Inc. and started making rifles that not only met original G3 specifications, but actually exceeded them. PTR became “The American Evolution of the Roller Lock Weapons System.”

PTR Modern Sporting Rifle

PTR's new Modern Sporting Rifle is designed to appeal to hunters and "ban" states.

The company is now capable of producing these rifles with every part, every pin and every spring made entirely here in the U.S. CNC machining makes it possible  to build rifles to a higher standard than the original G3 specifications. For example, PTR-91s must meet stricter specifications than the original HK guns in critical areas such as bolt gap. Bolt gap is how headspace is measured on this recoil-operated, roller-delayed blowback design, and is critical for reliability and accuracy. PTR-91s use a match grade bull barrel that measures 0.7 inches under the handguards and features standard type, 1/12 twist micro grooved rifling. PTR profiles and chambers these barrels from blanks made by Green Mountain and Thompson Center. PTR-91s are chambered for .308 but will also shoot 7.62×51 NATO. These rifles have built a reputation for accuracy, especially the top of the line PTR MSG-91 which is loosely based on the old HK MSG 90 configuration. This variant has a low profile Picatinny mount welded to the receiver, an adjustable Magpul PRS stock, and fluted barrel. When fired using match grade ammo, this rifle is capable of sub-MOA accuracy, shot after shot. A new version, the Super Sniper MSG91, is based on the PSG-1. The precision demanded by this gun’s configuration makes it a low production volume gun, so PTR carefully makes a run of only 50 Super Snipers at a time. At nearly $3,000 it’s the most expensive gun PTR makes. It is still a bargain: the PSG-1, no longer imported, sold for $10,000 when first introduced using a now-obselete fixed 6x optic! 

Last month, PTR 91, Inc. announced that they have changed their company name to PTR Industries, and have moved to a larger facility with room for more of those huge CNC machines. The name change reflects that the company is expanding beyond the -91 series of .308 rifles. Several variants of PTR-32 rifles are already available. These rifles are chambered in 7.62×39 and accept AK-47 magazines. Like the .308 guns, the owner may attach sections of Picatinny rail to their machined aluminum forends, and PTR offers a variety of fixed and collapsible stocks. Consider a compact G3 style rifle using AK magazines, with an AR-15 six-position stock, red dot optic atop the receiver, and foregrip and flashlight mounted on its railed forend. What an unusual, yet effective, fighting carbine! PTR is also making pistol versions of the PTR-91 and PTR-32, which are simply short-barreled versions with no stock, and have recently introduced a factory SBR program for those able to do the paperwork to own a registered short-barreled variant. Guns that divert propellant gas though a gas block in the barrel can have difficulty functioning properly when the barrel is chopped too short. For example, AR-15s with barrels less than 10.5 inches long are notorious for reliability problems. Short-barreled PTR-91s and -32s have no such difficulty because there is no gas system at all. The recoil operated, roller lock operating system works exactly the same way every time regardless of barrel length.

PTR-91 Factory SBR

Factory PTR-91 short-barreled rifle in .308. Hang on tight!

New for 2012, PTR is releasing a “Modern Sporting Rifle” intended for hunters looking for a reliable, accurate .308 semi-auto. The MSR features a welded Picatinny rail on the reciever, no iron sights, and a raised cheekpiece on the stock to help shooters look through a magnified optic. A five-round magazine is provided, and the free-float barrel ends in a target crown with no muzzle attachment. Removing some of the military features of the rifle slims it down for hunting purposes, with the side benefit of being legal in some states with assault weapon bans in effect. 

If you were in charge of PTR Industries and had a growing company moving into a bigger building, what new products would you design? How would you turn your expertise with HK’s roller locked rifles into exciting new products? I would personally love to see PTR build a high quality HK94/MP5 type rifle in 9mm. Pre-1989 HK94s have become unobtainable to the average shooter, selling for $4000 and up. A few low-volume gunsmithing shops produce MP5 clones that have earned a mixed, mostly poor reputation. The .22 LR clones imported by GSG are wildly popular. PTR Industries has proven they can build a quality product at an affordable price, and they know the critical details of HK’s roller locked system like few others do. Should they build an MP5 clone, or can you think of an even better idea?

 

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