July 18, 2012

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We all have dream guns, ones we would buy if we happened to win the lottery, but what about guns that in the near future you could have the means to purchase? Here in the office, the boss man asked us what three guns, under $800, are we saving our pennies to buy. Here is my list:

Rock Island Nickel GI 1911

Rock Island Nickel GI 1911

Rock Island Compact 1911

Many different guys have told me they do not recommend a .45 ACP 1911 for a woman, but little do they know that when I learned to shoot pistols, I learned on a Kimber compact 1911 with wood grips. I shot that thing like a champ. It is no longer in my possession and the $1,000 plus price tag scares me off, but the Rock Island compact 1911 is close to $600 less!

Rock Island is the biggest manufactures of 1911s. In fact, ARMSCOR, Rock Island’s parent company, makes 1911s for Auto-Ordnance, Iver Johnson, and Charles Daly.

Rock Island’s 1911 offers no frills, but that’s okay, their quality is outstanding. I would rather customize my grips and sights anyway. They beat any other price for such a highly reliable 1911. At just a tad over $400, this is one 1911 I can afford.

Though I like a full-sized handgun, the compact is easier to carry and store. The Rock Island 1911 has a 3.5-inch barrel, holds 7 rounds, and a parkerized finished alloy frame.

To read more about ARMSCOR, check out our blogs Armscor: 1911s, Ammo, and More! and Solid as a Rock and Bang for Your Buck in Rock Island Armory.

Specifications and Features

  • .45 ACP
  • 3.5″ barrel
  • 7 round magazine capacity
  • Sights: Fixed
  • Grips: Wood
  • Single Action
  • Size: Compact
  • Frame Material: Alloy
  • Frame Finish: Parkerized

Like it? Want it? Buy it!

Smith & Wesson M&P optics ready rifle

S&W M&P15OR Optics Ready Rifle .223 Remington

S&W M&P15OR Optics Ready Rifle .223 Remington

I’ve been saying for months now that my next gun purchase will be a .223 AR-15. I already own the S&W M&P 15-22 and I love it. I have picked the optics-ready model because it is one of S&W’s cheaper models of the .223 M&P. This particular model has no sights, but a gas block and rail so you may pick your own. It has a basic six-position collapsible stock, which I also want to customize with pink furniture, so I don’t need to pay extra for all the bells and whistles on some of the more expensive M&P rifles. It has a 16-inch chrome-lined steel barrel and a 30-round magazine. It is a gas-operated system, with top-notch reliability. Further, it only weighs 6.5 pounds without the magazine. Later on down the road, I can get my tax stamp to cut down the barrel.

Specifications and Features

  • .223 Remington/5.56x45mm NATO
  • 16″ 4140 steel M4 barrel
  • 1:9″ twist with 6 grooves & lands
  • Chrome-lined barrel bore, gas key, and bolt carrier
  • 30 round magazine
  • Gas operated, multi-lug rotary locking bolt
  • 7075 T6 aluminum upper and lower receivers
  • Hard coat black anodized receivers and barrel
  • A3 flat top upper receiver
  • Gas block with integral picatinny style rail on the same plane as receiver rail for mounting iron sights
  • Black M4 6-position buttstock
  • Accepts all AR-15 and M16 magazines
  • 32″ to 35″ overall length
  • 6.5 lbs unloaded

Like it? Want it? Buy it!

Beretta 84FS

Beretta Model 84FS Cheetah

Beretta Model 84FS Cheetah

The Beretta 84FS is my latest flame. I have never been interested in .380s before, let alone Berettas. My friend has a PX4 Storm, but the price has always made me weary. After shooting the Beretta 84FS, I knew that Beretta actually DID have something for me. Though the price does seem high for a .380, Beretta has a solid reputation. Their handguns are solidly built and reliable. The 84 FS Cheetah has a 3.8-inch barrel and holds 10 rounds. The open slide design means less jams and better reliability. It has a full-size grip, relative to my hand size and a combat-style trigger guard. The safety is easy to reach and ambidextrous to boot. To read more about my love affair with the Beretta 84, read my blog post, My New Love, The Beretta 84.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Specifications and Features

  • .380 ACP
  • 10 round capacity
  • 3.8″ nickel chromium-molybdenum steel barrel
  • Chromed bore
  • Double/single action
  • Ambidextrous safety
  • Double action trigger
  • Combat style trigger guard
  • Hammer de-cocking device
  • Reversible magazine release
  • Open slide design
  • Auto firing pin block
  • Alluminum alloy frame
  • Plastic grips
  • 3-dot sights
  • Staggered magazine
  • Matte black finish
  • Corrosion resistant
  • 6.8″ overall length
  • 1.4″ wide
  • 4.8″ tall
  • 4.9″ sight radius
  • 23.3 oz. empty

Like it? Want it? Buy it!

What three are you saving for?

 

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June 21, 2012

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Sorry Smith & Wesson, but I love Beretta now. The .380 ACP and the guns chambered for the round have never really held any desire to me. Had you asked me what I thought of the .380, my answer would have been “meh.” Especially after .380 prices rose so significantly a few years ago. It just seemed like an over-priced, weak caliber that really didn’t serve much of a purpose. We each have a bias against certain calibers. The .380 was mine, but not anymore.

The Beretta 84 in the movie, The Matrix.

The Beretta 84 in the movie, The Matrix.

When S&W released the Bodyguard .38 Special revolver and .380 semi-auto pistol, it was a no-brainer for me to purchase the revolver. My friend decided to purchase the pistol. My friend knows a lot about guns and the .380 was going to be his pocket pistol. I trust his judgment and he judged that the .380 is a sufficient self-defense round. I hate my friend’s .380 Bodyguard, but it’s not the caliber I detest, but the operation of the gun. It is hard to hold, the trigger pull is incredibly long, and it has a pretty feisty snap to it after a few rounds.

I shot the .380 S&W Bodyguard again at a recent self-defense pistol clinic. We compared three guns, the Bodyguard, the SIG P238, and the Beretta 84, all chambered in .380 in a quick-response drill. The instructor of the drill described the Bodyguard and the SIG P238 as great concealed carry guns. The same instructor compared the Beretta 84 to the SIG and S&W saying, “you wouldn’t carry this one.” I beg to differ.

The Beretta 84, currently in production as the

Beretta 84FS Cheetah, is classified as a “compact” pistol on Beretta’s website and though it looks like a clunker next to the Bodyguard and the SIG, it isn’t anywhere near the size and heft of some other compact guns I’ve shot. Modeled after the famous Beretta 92, the 84 was introduced in 1976. The 84 is a blowback operated semi-automatic handgun that holds 13 rounds in a double-stack magazine. The first round you shoot is double-action and follow-up shots are single-action. The open slide design prevents jams and other ammunition malfunctions. The 84 is certainly reliable.

The Beretta 84FS Cheetah

The Beretta 84FS Cheetah

Though the recently released small pocket .380s do have an excellent and legitimate place in the world, I have learned my lesson on spending my hard-earned bucks on a gun I do not particularly enjoy shooting. If I bought the SIG P238 or the Bodyguard, I know I would not put many rounds through them. Even for practice. What good is your carry gun if you get rusty shooting it? The Beretta 84’s full-sized plastic grips and larger frame make recoil much more manageable, therefore making the gun more fun to shoot. My follow-up shots on the Beretta were significantly more accurate than with the Bodyguard and the SIG. Even after 10 rounds on either, I was done and the web of my hand was already hurting. I’m a big believer in loving your carry gun. It is the most important gun you own. And who loves a gun that hurts you?

The Beretta 84 I shot was older than current production and was not the improved FS model. The older, well-loved model I shot had a classic, military look that is quite pleasing to the eye. The current production as well as the older model 84s are handsome guns.

Smaller guns do not feel comfortable in my hand and unfortunately, the smaller they get, the more perceived recoil I anticipate. Therefore, I am never proud of my groups when I shoot the smaller-framed handguns. The Beretta’s larger size gives me a secure grip on the firearm and its ambidextrous safety is in a place that I do not have to fumble around to manipulate. The sights make aiming easy because of their white three-dot outline. The current production Beretta 84FS has an enlarged trigger guard, which the older models do not. The 84 I shot did not have the reshaped trigger guard. This improvement makes no difference to me. I would not complain about owning a new or old Beretta 84. Brand new models retail for around $650 and used for about $415. In fact, Mr. Bodyguard, we might just be parting ways soon.

The Beretta 84 with a nickel finish and wood grips.

The Beretta 84 with a nickel finish and wood grips.

I like the Beretta 84 because I do not believe it is too bulky to carry and I have confidence in its reliability. It is also a fun target gun. It serves a multi-purpose and in my opinion that is money much better spent. All the Berettas I have had the opportunity to shoot have run smoothly, handled well, and have been very comfortable for me to shoot. Beretta makes a highly accurate, reliable, well-made firearm.

Beretta 84FS Cheetah Specifications and Features:

  • .380 ACP
  • 13 round capacity
  • 3.8″ nickel chromium-molybdenum steel barrel
  • Chromed bore
  • Double/single action
  • Ambidextrous safety
  • Double action trigger
  • Combat style trigger guard
  • Hammer decocking device
  • Reversible magazine release
  • Open slide design
  • Auto firing pin block
  • Aluminum alloy frame
  • Plastic grips
  • 3 dot sights
  • Staggered magazine
  • Matte black finish
  • Corrosion resistant
  • 6.8″ overall length
  • 1.4″ wide
  • 4.8″ tall
  • 4.9″ sight radius
  • 23.3 oz. empty
Purchase the Beretta 84 in black or in nickel.

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