Kel-Tec today announced the newest gun to their lineup, the PMR-30 pistol chambered in .22WMR. The PMR-30 is a double stack semiautomatic pistol that has a 30 round magazine.
From Their Press Release:
Kel-Tec To Unveil PMR-30 at 2010 SHOT show. Click image to view full size.
The PMR-30 is a light weight, full size pistol chambered for the flat-shooting .22Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a unique hybrid
blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a wide variety of ammunition as it seamlessly adjusts between locked breach and blowback
operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge. It uses a double stack magazine of a new design that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol.
The trigger is a crisp single action with an over-travel stop. The manual safety is a thumb activated ambidextrous safety lever (up for SAFE, down for FIRE). The slide locks back after the last shot and a manual slide lock lever is also provided. The light, crisp trigger pull and fiber optic sights make the PMR-30 ideal for target shooting and hunting small game.Slide and barrel are 4140 steel, frame is 7075 aluminum. Grip, slide cover, trigger, mag release, and safety levers are glass reinforced Nylon (Zytel), much like other Kel-Tec Pistols. Magazine is Also Zytel and holds 30 rounds, with round count ports. Other features include: dual opposing extractors for reliability, heel magazine release to aid in magazine retention, dovetailed aluminum front sight, Picatinny accessory rail under the barrel, Urethane recoil buffer, captive coaxial recoil springs. The barrel is
fluted for light weight and effective heat dissipation. PMR30 disassembles for cleaning by removal of a single pin.Expected Availability: Quarter 2, 2010
Expected MSRP: $415
Caliber: .22 Magnum (.22WMR)
Barrel length 4.3”
Length: 7.9”
Height: 5.8”
Grip Width: 1.1”
Max width, across safety levers: 1.3”
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Trigger pull: 3.5 to 5 lbs
Weight (no mag): 13.6 oz.
Muzzle Velocity (40 gr): 1230 fps
Made in USA
More info will be available at the SHOT show 2010 Kel-Tec Booth (#2825)
The New Kel-Tec PMR-30, Photo Courtesy Oleg Volk. Click to view full size. |
It’s really no surprise that Kel-Tec is finally releasing (or should I say, re-releasing?) the PMR-30. Swedish designer George Kellgren initially designed the Grendel P30 .22 Magnum autoloader. Now, it’s been rehashed and re released as the Kel-Tec PMR-30.
Many of Kel-Tec’s guns share an incredible number of similarities with Kellgren’s Grendel designs. Comparing the Grendel P10 with the Kel-Tec P3AT for example one can see how the P10 was essentially a prototype for the now famous P3AT. Redesigning the Grendel P30 into the new PMR-30 seems only natural
The Grendel was not the first autoloader to fire the .22WMR. AMT (now sold by High Standard) designed a very elegant pistol for the cartridge back in the mid 1970s, the Automag II. In 2007 Excel Industries also released their own .22 Magnum pistol. Like the Automag II, the Excel MP-22 also uses a single stack magazine.
There’s a reason that semiautomatic handguns chambered in .22 Magnum are rare. Engineering an autoloader for that cartridge is no easy feat. The .22WMR cartridge has some unique characteristics which make it difficult to work with in an autoloader. It was initially designed as a rifle cartridge, and as such is generally loaded with slow burning rifle powder. This causes the cartridge to develop a late peak pressure, which leads to the possibility of the case mouth expanding and jamming in the chamber.
George Kellgren’s Grendel P30, source unkown |
The Grendel P30 utilized a fluted chamber to facilitate better extraction, while the engineers at AMT took a different approach. They drilled 18 holes at 90 degrees to the chamber, and then welded a larger sleeve around that to provide room for excess gasses to vent. No word yet on what approach the engineers at Kel-Tec in the P30 chamber design, though presumably they will use the same fluted chamber design as the Grendel.
The Grendel P30 also had a double stack Zytel plastic magazine, which the Kel-Tec P30 also appears to use.
Kellgren also designed a carbine model of the Grendel P30, designated the R31. Presumably we can look forward to Kel-Tec releasing a carbine companion to their new PMR-30 pistol sometime in the not too distant future.
More photos are available over at Oleg Volk’s Gallery
[...] 22 mag pistol. 30 round mags. [...]
Pingback by SayUncle » New KelTec — November 20, 2009 @ 5:49 PM
FYI
George Kellgren is spelled with 2 L’s….no matter what it says on wikipedia (I have tried to fix it many times).
The PMR-30 does not use a fluted chamber like the P-30. the hybrid blow-back/locked breach system is unique and accomplished using what is effectively a floating barrel. this allows the barrel to either move with the slide (Like a locked breech) or stay still (like on a blow back). which one happens depends on the pressure inside the case, when the gun fires.
Comment by Toby — November 20, 2009 @ 6:46 PM
Toby – thanks for the additional info. I’ve fixed the spelling. Shame on me I suppose for relying on Wikipedia to have the correct spelling.
Comment by CTD Blogger — November 20, 2009 @ 7:12 PM
The PMR-30 is tacticool, but I’d really rather see an SU-16 reworked in 6.5mm Grendel.
This designer and company are impressing the heck out of me.
Comment by Fûz — November 20, 2009 @ 7:33 PM
I was joking about you using wikipedia… Sorry to call you out on that. Hopefully it will actually get changed to the correct spelling. But I have tried many times, and there are even links to proof of the correct spelling in the form of tax records linked at wikipedia I believe.
George doesn’t seem to mind, and it’s an easy mistake to make considering the spelling of the company name.
Comment by Toby — November 20, 2009 @ 7:38 PM
[...] Looks like Kel-Tec is making a semi-auto pistol in .22 Magnum. Of course, this fairly common and 50 year old rimfire caliber isn’t generally thought of as an armor piercing, but it’s performance is very close to the 5.7mm round fired by the much maligned FN Five-Seven. Will the gun control crowd advocate banning this gun too? [...]
Pingback by Another Brady “Cop Killer” Gun | Snowflakes in Hell — November 20, 2009 @ 8:42 PM
Lovely caliber. Lovely pistol. If George designed and built it it should work flawlessly. Velocity isn’t much faster than a .22 LR cartridge. It has at least 4 times the powder. It should have better velocity. I will wait to see if a longer barrel comes out on this pistol.
Straum
Comment by Straum — November 22, 2009 @ 12:20 PM
Now I would love to see them come out with one of their folding carbines that takes the same magazines.
Comment by Darrin — November 22, 2009 @ 3:50 PM
Looks AWESOME!!!! I am already saving my money for one! Love the idea of 30 rounds of potent .22 Magnum. Can’t wait!!!
Comment by Alan H. — November 22, 2009 @ 6:06 PM
Make one in .22LR! Please!!
Comment by Dan — November 22, 2009 @ 10:40 PM
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Pingback by Kel-Tec PMR-30 « Gun Nuts Media — November 23, 2009 @ 8:34 AM
How about 17 HMR?
Comment by Greg — November 25, 2009 @ 6:45 AM
I have always wanted a company to make a pistol like this in the 22 magnum caliber…I am getting one as soon as I can…..thanks Kel Tec!
I love the styling. Wonder what the weight will be fully loaded? At 13.6 ozs empty, its really light.
Comment by felix — November 25, 2009 @ 9:06 PM
HOT DARN!!!! I’ve been WAITING, Praying & BEGGING Kel-Tec for a .22WMR
In fact, about 8 months ago I sent them an email about it and they didn’t breathe a WORD of any plans of the PMR-30!
As long as it cycles as well as my Grendel P-31 & R-31…I’ll be a happy camper
Next question…are the mags interchangeable with the Grendel mags?? That would be TOTALLY awesome
Comment by Big Shrek — November 26, 2009 @ 2:50 PM
GREAT NEWS BEEN WANTING SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR AWHILE CANT WAIT ALREADY PUTTING MONEY ASIDE FOR IT. IT WILL GO GREAT WITH MY OTHER 22S.I KNOW IT WILL BE AS GREAT AS MY OTHER KEL-TEC.
THANKS KEL-TEC BERT
Comment by OVERKILL S10 — November 27, 2009 @ 11:54 AM
Seems pointless to me. If you want a plinker, then a .22LR is better (much cheaper to shoot), and if you want a defensive pistol, .22 mag is not a good option. So what’s the purpose of this pistol?
Comment by DamagePlan — December 2, 2009 @ 2:01 PM
Only 1260 fps?. There are 30 gr 22LR rounds that zip along at more than 1700 fps. Are there 22WMR rounds that have a bit more zip to them to make the PMR-30 a bit more potent?
Comment by Jerry — December 15, 2009 @ 10:11 PM
I have no idea why people do not like this weapon!! As an FFL, I sell all kinds of guns. Kel Tecs are always in great demand for me. I had just learned about this 22MAG 30 round pistol and I love it!! If you complain that 22mag is too costly to shoot, put your money in a safe fund. Enjoy that 3%!!!! We live in hiker/hunter mountain area that is the most extreme of the Eastern U. S. wether it is a snake, boar, or bear….on the East Coast Smokey Mountains, this is what a liscenced concealed carry owner should take out. I First, it is very light fully loaded. 22MAG ammo can travel twice as fast as 22LR. 2nd, it is mainly for protection while out in the woods and this pistol with 30 rounds of nicely selected ammo, will serve its purpose and more. It looks great, as my wife who carries a Walther P22 as concealed carry, saw it and said it looked big. I told her the capacity of it and she understood perfectly and then thought….wow, that is a great size. She knows the difference of a 25ACP round and the 32ACP round…….then the 32 S&W….so on. We fired all of them and became pure lovers of the 22MAG round. This may be Kel Tecs most successful most popular firearm. Not because it is new, but since it is new in design and caliber. Yes history has made a similar, but not like this! The rail on bottom is not just a rail………it is almost limitless! It is a pistol that will fire easily and accurate. When we are in the “Great White North” I would carry 1 PMR and 1 S&W 500…..she would carry a PMR and a S&W 460. Why use a revolver that is so overpowered but may be needed in extreme situations. The PMR is a very welcome weapon to wherever ou travel or live.
Comment by CCO — December 17, 2009 @ 8:45 PM
Wow CCO, I’m excited about this pistol too, but a few things in your post seemed a little off, first, the idea of a 22 mag as a defense against bears and second the fact that your wife carries a Walther P22 as a CC weapon.
I know, the 22 you have with you is a hell of a lot better than the .45 you left at home because it was too heavy, but unless your wife has medical issues she’s ill advised carrying such a small caliber for defense. I’m not going to get into a huge debate on this, and I will say that 22mag would be an improvement for her, but while I fully intend to buy a PMR I *don’t* intend to carry it around to fend off bears and muggers.
Comment by paul — December 19, 2009 @ 6:45 AM
Well I for one am very interested in this new pistol. I have used an old mossberg 22mag bolt action on ground hogs for years, and aside from the Auto mag, there really wasn’t a caliber compatible side arm to carry with. I am thrilled that Kel Tec has designed this particular handgun. I would carry it with my CCW anywhere I went, yes, not near the hitting power of a 9 or a .45, both of wich I have shot for many years in the military. That being said…that was the great thing about the M-16, it’s basically a 22, but has 30 rounds to puke down range. Personal defense to me is no different, to get into a fire fight? certainly not, but to have the potential to have 30 rounds to puke down range if you needed it, and not have to change magazines? that’s pretty cool to me. Trust me from experience in Iraq, 30 rounds coming at you? it’s time to drop flop and roll.
Comment by Army Chief — December 22, 2009 @ 12:48 PM
I love Kel-Tec But I think this one will be a flopp. In any other caliber may be but the .22 mag is on the ESL the way it is try one in 5.7X28 mm.
PLR’s are my favorite I ran 90 rounds though mine last night and as always without a hitch. I would love a PLR-FiveSeven.
Comment by GEORGE LEO MERKLEY — December 22, 2009 @ 5:02 PM
I have a Heritage Arms Rough Rider and I prefer shooting it with the WMR cylinder loaded up as opposed to standard .22lr. My only problem has been that when it comes to plinking, I’m a hi-cap mag lover. It will go nicely along side my Ruger SR9 and Charger pistol. I was getting afraid that people didn’t come up with good ideas anymore.
Comment by Matt — December 27, 2009 @ 12:51 AM
Make a 22 LR model to please…
Comment by jay — December 30, 2009 @ 1:11 PM
Well, its about time, have a P 30 and love it. When can we expect a carbine?? Thirty rounds of 22 mag is a lot of firepower and very controllable. Can’t wait to get my hands on one.
Comment by T Adams — December 30, 2009 @ 6:54 PM
For everyone that has doubts go shoot a sub2000 or p3at or pf11 waiting on a 308 and now this I will be one of the first to purchase Kel-Tec did it again
Comment by NRA member757 — January 2, 2010 @ 9:29 AM
I’m liking this pistol so far.
Before jumping all over the ballistics, some folks need to take into account the effect of firing from a 4.3″ bbl on both rounds. Compare apples to apples.
While many want to take exception to a .22 for self-defense, they should recognize that many people can’t fire 9’s, .38’s or even .32’s without pain which can eliminate second shots and reduces control of even the first shot. Additionally, consider how many more people will use this as a starter pistol which increases numbers and provides more likelihood of practice to develop proficiency. Many of us started with .380’s and 9’s before progressing to .40’s and .45’s, so it also provides a new option as an entry-level firearm which can be the first step.
30 rounds of .22 Mag beats the heck out of harsh language and shouted expletives. Two magazines gives you some distinct possibilities for home defense as well.
Comment by EC — January 9, 2010 @ 5:34 AM
Paul, wake up! If one is a shooter, my wife would take a head shot with a 22. So that is a very effective CC weapon. Now 30 rounds of 22MAG…it most certainly will kill an East Coast 200lb bear. It will kill any man if needed. Even as most people only shoot center of mass, with all things going their way, using their strong hand, in a proper and supported stance, instead make it habitual to make a head shot in unusual positions. Murphy’s Law is always there to knock you down. .45 not too heavy for me but wearing certain clothes or on Federal Land, a .22 will do us fine, put 30 rounds in it…..@#*! The 22 round has been used in hundreds of assassinations because it was known how to use it. 30 rounds spewing out at anything from a PMR will destroy it. Do the math.
Comment by CCO — January 11, 2010 @ 4:38 PM
How can I order a PMR-30? When will they be available?
Thank you!
Comment by Bob Doll — January 11, 2010 @ 9:50 PM
I GET THEM RIGHT AFTER THE SHOT SHOW IN LATE JANUARY. crosscreekoutfitters@hotmail.com I am getting 3, maybe 4 after as I am a small business but even the big guys will be lucky to get 10. After that, they will be out waiting for Kel Tec to catch up. History shows that one. Send me an note and we can set something up for you Bob.
Comment by CCO — January 12, 2010 @ 4:27 PM
Will this gun be California legal?
Comment by Alan — January 14, 2010 @ 9:35 PM
Too bad it will not be available for sale in Maryland because of the 30-round magazine. And I don’t see them making it to the list of approved handguns in Maryland either
Comment by Thomas — January 14, 2010 @ 10:21 PM
for the record the 22 mag is a great caliber. It has when shot fom a 20 in barrel almost the same energy at a 38 special. And causes much more internal damage due to interior deflection. and 30 round in the palm of your hand whats not to like. I would like to see a 8″ barrel model with a treaded end like to grendel. This is i am sure to test the waters. and more options will come later. It is a fact sad to say but the 22 mag has no advantage over the 22lr in this short of a barrel. the ammmo cost more and it will be very loud… make a longer barrel guys. thanks for bringing back the p30 now we need the p-31,r30 etc. note my only problem with the gun that i can see some good adjustable sights on it or make it so i can.
Comment by markfox — January 15, 2010 @ 2:25 PM
Wrong, Mark. You will get the same benefit from a .22 Mag over a .22 LR out of a short barrel that you would get out of a rifle. You have to make the same comparisons. You’re making the same mistake as many readers above. For example, say your 30 grain .22 MAG round (CCI Maxi-mag TNT) has a muzzle velocity of 2200 fps. and 322 ft./lbs. of energy out of a rifle, and a .22 LR round (CCI Stinger) has a muzzle velocity of 1640 fps. and 191 ft./lbs. of energy out of the same rifle. Those same benefits will be seen in the pistol… if you reduce the velocity and energy of the magnum round due to barrel length, you have to do the same for the long rifle round due to barrel length. Out of a rifle, the LR round’s velocity is approximately 75% of the magnum’s velocity; and the energy distributed out of the LR round is only 60% as great as that of the .22 Mag round. So, a .22 LR round out of a similar pistol will only reach 75% of the velocity and 60% of the energy of the .22 Mag round out of the same pistol. Why guys keep thinking they can compare the performance of a .22 mag round out of a pistol to the performance of a .22 LR round out of a rifle, and then say there isn’t much difference in the 2 rounds baffles me. Of course there isn’t much difference, you’re not comparing the rounds equitably… a longer barrel always equals greater performance.
In this case, they’re quoting a muzzle velocity of 1230 fps. with a 40 grain magnum round. Since it’s established that a LR round only reaches 75% of a Mag. round out of similar length barrels, it’s safe to assume that all one could expect out of a LR round, in terms of velocity, is around 922 fps. in a gun like this. Using the equation for ammunition energy, a 40 grain Magnum bullet fired at a velocity of 1230 fps. will deliver 134.34 ft./lbs. of energy. A 40 grain LR bullet fired at a velocity of 922 fps. will only deliver 75.48 ft./lbs. of energy. That’s 134 to 75 ft./lbs. of energy, and a huge benefit, imho. The energy delivered to the target from a .22 magnum is almost twice as great as that from a .22 LR. If that’s the “no advantage fact” you’re referring to, perhaps I need a new dictionary with a better definition of “advantage”.
http://www.firearmexpertwitness.com/customguns/calcnrg.html
As for the Kel-tec gun, it’s really an amazing engineering feat to get one that works well, as past efforts almost always resulted in guns that jammed, didn’t eject, or didn’t feed properly. I owned AMT versions of the .22 Automag, and they were always hit or miss on whether or not you got a reliable one. Hi-Standard is reproducing them, and is supposed to have improved the reliability; but when they first re-introduced them, they were selling them for $600. Their price list now says $845 for the exact same gun. If Kel-tec’s gun is reliable, and anywhere near the $400 mark, I’m buying one for sure… and it’ll make a great self-defense weapon for those unable to sling heavy lead.
Comment by G8R8U2 — January 17, 2010 @ 1:05 PM
I wouldn’t make an apples-to-oranges comparison of a .22mag from a pistol to a .22lr out of a rifle, but I would question the idea that a 75% effectiveness of a .22lr round compared to a .22mag round in a rifle translates to a 75% effectiveness in a pistol barrel. I would prefer to see some actual chronographed results of comparable-weight bullets. I read that the mag rounds have slower-burning powders. IF that is true, I would think the lr rounds MIGHT pick up a little bit of the performance differences in shorter barrels.
I would appreciate if someone with a chronograph could provide the results of actual testing from shorter barrels.
Kevin
Comment by Kevin — January 17, 2010 @ 11:52 PM
THE 22 MAG IS A MUCH BETTER ROUND THAN THE 22 LR WHEN BOTH ARE SHOT FROM THE MATCHED BARRLES TO,THEIR CALIBERS, CASE, AND BURN RATE. KEVIN IS ON THE CORRECT TRACK BUT HIS INFO IS OFF A LITTLE. THE SLOWER POWDER OF THE 22 MAG NEEDS A LONGER BARREL TO REACH IT PERFORMANCE LEVEL. THEY BOTH BURN ALL THERE POWDER AT 16″ BUT AT 8″ THE THE 22 LONG
HAS BURNT A HIGHER % OF ITS POWDER THAN A 22 MAG AND AT 5 ” THE MAG LOOSES MORE OF ITS PERFORMANCE THAN A 22 LONG
WILL. AND THIS IS A FACT. I HAVE DONE THE TESTING WITH A CHRONO. I BUILD CUSTOM BENCH GUNS FOR A LIVING. AND HAVE FOR 25 YEARS. i SPECIALIZE IN THIS AND HAVE BUILT LOST OF CUSTOM CALIBERS & WILD CATS THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE…
6.5 ARES MOD.IMPROVED 6.5 BANCHEE MOD.IMPROVED 6.5 TAZ MOD.IMPROVED 20 VOLKS/SHORT AKLEY IMPROVED 458 SURBRUS
IMPROVED 256 QT BARNS ULTRA IMPROVED ETC. PERFORMANCE IS BASED ON B.C., PRESURE, BURN RATE, AND THE CORRECT BARREL , TWIST FOR BULLET MAKEUP. THE CASE SIZE & GRAIN WEIGHT HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH PERFORMANCE.
Comment by markfox — January 18, 2010 @ 4:54 PM
WHERE AND WHEN CAN I PURCHASE THE KEL-TEC-PMR-30???—THANK YOU JOHNNY GASTELUM
Comment by JOHNNY GASTELUM — January 23, 2010 @ 7:57 PM
WHERE CAN I PURCHASE THE –KEL TEC–PMR–30ROUND
Comment by JOHNNY GASTELUM — January 24, 2010 @ 5:04 PM
I live up in northern Wisconsin and carry a sr9 bowhunting. The biggest reason I bought it was because of the wolf population up here. I looked at the amt automag and for the price just couldn’t do it. The kel-fec although I don’t know much about the gun I do know the 22mag round. And yes I have taken that round up against bear before. Great gun great ammo gotta have one. Placed right it’ll stop anything with one shot. With 30 rounds. Hell just shot.
Comment by Shawn — January 26, 2010 @ 1:29 AM
I live up in northern Wisconsin and carry a sr9 bowhunting. The biggest reason I bought it was because of the wolf population up here. I looked at the amt automag and for the price just couldn’t do it. The kel-tec although I don’t know much about the gun I do know the 22mag round. And yes I have taken that round up against bear before. Great gun great ammo gotta have one. Placed right it’ll stop anything with one shot. With 30 rounds. Hell just shoot.
Comment by Shawn — January 26, 2010 @ 1:34 AM
Looking for a PMR 30 Does anyone know where i can pick one up……Thank you for your Help.
Comment by Tim — January 28, 2010 @ 6:49 PM
The PMR-30 should be available for purchase at your local retailer sometime in the 2nd quarter of 2010
Comment by CTD Blogger — January 29, 2010 @ 12:58 PM
you can not get one as of yet they wont be out till the 2nd qt of 2010 the good luck finding one. till the 4th qt of 2010
Comment by markfox — January 29, 2010 @ 12:58 PM
Have one on order at my dealer when they are released would like to see one made in 17 cal or a barrel made for the PMR-30 in 17 cal.
Comment by Thurlow Culpepper — January 30, 2010 @ 2:25 PM
Has anyone been able to PRE-Order the PMR-30 yet? If so, what was the quoted price? Don’t want to spend over 400.00 for a 22mag.
Comment by SAL — January 31, 2010 @ 11:59 AM
Well I sold many of the P-30’s back in the 90s. Many had to be sent back as they would often fail to extract or stove pipe(many had to have the recievers replaced……excessive jamming with all brands of .22 mag. They eventually fixed most of the problems but then went out of business. I also owned the P-12 .380….now that was a superb DAO backup handgun, always fired and never jammed. I hope the PMR-30 is as relieble as the P-12.
Comment by Alex — January 31, 2010 @ 6:07 PM
My prayers have been answered… I am a huge fan of the 22mag and have been waiting an auto-pistol that works. The Auto-mag (I still own) is better at pounding nails with the grip than shooting at them. I like a gun that can drive a nail and the 22mag can do it. I will be the first at my club with one!
Rod W
Comment by Rod — February 4, 2010 @ 3:09 PM
Have 3 Grendel P30’s Lots of mags too. Only shot one. Bought a lot of spaire parts when I saw how scarce they were becomming. If you have spaire safty, file it down a bit so it won’t dig into hand. Or use your thum on the other side. That way you will always no if it’s on or off. SHOOTING IT. Shot about 300 rounds, no jams, no stove pipes, took it home, left it. Weeks later did it again. Got to about 280 rounds and it failed. Hammer would not lock back. Took it apart, could not get it reassembled. Hammer would not stay back. Gun was so much fun. I had to figure it out. Solution, Wait for it. CLEAN IT. When you got it apart look real good at how it works. What holds the hammer back. Parts and springs are NOT very robust. Dirt between side wall and hammer latch will stop it. The hammer will go back. But, spring is not heavy enough to bring the hammer catch back up. Lay in pan spray with carb cleaner use tooth brush. Fire off another 500 rounds. As for the PMR-30 I am getting two ASP.
Comment by Michael Thoma — February 7, 2010 @ 1:06 AM