February 1, 2013

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   I think just about any weapon in the hands of a person trained to use it is the best PDW. I for one use the Taurus Judge .410 / .45 for home defense. I think that it will the badguys and do little damage to the inside of my house. I do however have an AR 15 for a backup.

   Comment by Kevin C Monahan — February 1, 2013 @ 4:54 pm

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   Just a suggestion but a much better visual would be a Ruger Mini 14 with a wood stock vs. the same gun with an Archangel or similar stock. Same action and everything just wood vs. aluminum.

   Comment by Chris — February 1, 2013 @ 5:10 pm

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   Excellent article. With so many court rulings, definitions, it is difficult to understand why Feinstein and others, waste so much of the taxpayer monies in tying up the political and Supreme Court processes.
   Their time should be devoted to a) How to enforce current laws, b) overhaul the mental health issue, c) give the BATF the full disclosure of information (mental health), tools and manpower, so as they (BATF) have a chance to be more effective.
   The current biased presentations by media , CNN in particular, causes confusion among those who do not know what an Assault Rifle (Military) is, or that AR does not stand for Assault Rifle and so on. It really is a sad statement that news media these days, can dictate their agenda without regard to fact or common sense

   Comment by Steven McLaren — February 1, 2013 @ 5:11 pm

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   Everyone by now knows that Diane Feinstein and New York’s Mayor Cuomo are BOOBS!!! They do not or ever will know anything about firearms.

   I will apologize in advance for what I am going to say, to our friends that support the 2nd amendment, that live in New York, New Jersey and California.

   I WOULD ROUTE MY VACATION AROUND New York and New Jersey because I would probably be legally transporting a firearm in my car and would get arrested by the overzealous Cuomoized law enforcement agencies that twist the legislation.

   California I can’t say what I feel about the people that elected such a ding dong. I say this because quite frankly I CAN! Under the same Constitution which houses The Right To Keep and Bear Arms!! Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopolis you can quote me if you wish.

   Joe Watkins
   Concerned Citizen

   Comment by Joe Watkins — February 1, 2013 @ 6:01 pm

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   Ok, lets see, I’m in my house and someone wants to come in my house and steal from me, rape my wife, make me watch, kill her and my mom and her mom, after torture to make sure that they get everything I’ve got, including into my bank account, my car. And lets say I want to defend against it. Well we know for sure he’s not just gonna bring a club, or a knife, probably more than a pistol, lets assume he’s got an AR 15 (oh no!), or an SKS, it’s reasonable and cheap enough for a thief. Now, I know for sure that a rock, knife, club, or barking dogs on the stereo played real loud, or me standing and making mean faces at them while I curse him like a sailor and tell him to leave before I get really mad, is NOT going to work. I feel like I should be prepared to defend against the worst scenario, which is gonna probably be a semi-auto weapon. That’s the weapons of choice these days for most thieves. If I am not allowed to arm myself with something comparable to what they have, they are gonna walk right over top of me and I don’t stand a chance. With a pistol you’re only gonna be half as good as you are on your best day at the range, because of the stress of combat, you’re gonna miss some, & if there are more than one or two, and you have six shots, it’s only a matter of moments before your gun starts clicking instead of going bang. Trying to reload under those conditions is a fumbling mess, especially a revolver. Now if you have an SKS or something with a decent amount of ammo in it(without having to reload it)that will help, really help. If it’s a home invasion(very popular these days/safety in numbers ya’ know)there will be more than just a couple bad guys, and maybe already in different parts of your house, splitting up to make things even more difficult. If you can catch them as they’re entering through the fatal funnel of a doorway then you may be able to drop the first few as they come in, making the rest think about it a little and they may go home. whew! But when they know that you are outgunned by them, because they’ve got the good stuff, and you’ve been disarmed and your hands are tied behind your back by the government, you’re screwed. When it comes down that we are disarmed and all we have is grandpa’s old shotgun, God help us!
   And the thing about this is that we aren’t gonna be left with anything but that old shotgun if they get their way, and if we don’t stand up to this they’ll disarm us, mainly so they can control us. We won’t stand a chance against tyranny in government either, we’ll be outgunned, we are already outgunned and should really be able to arm ourselves with the weaponry that the government will want to use against us if we would decide, as a nation, that our government is full of tyranny and we wanted to change that. You think it’s bad now, if they start using drones on us and tanks and shoulder fired rocket launchers, surface to surface missiles, or air to ground missiles, .50 cal. sniper rifles, or God knows what else, on US. I mean we don’t stand a chance already, but they want to make it a sure deal by disarming us. But at least now we could make a dent. But I truly believe that they are going to take them all. That’s why they want registration of all weapons. They went house to house raping women in New Orleans, and taking their guns under the guise of “do you need help” as they were kicking in their doors. It’s been admitted by some of the police and army that were called in to “help” during Katrina. They weren’t there to help. It’s already happening, but most of us just can’t believe that our government would do such a horrible thing to US. We had better wake up, ‘cos it’s coming soon to a theater near YOU. We have got to do something. The administration wants confrontation so that they can go ahead and disarm and kill any of us who do not conform. So the only way we can get anything done at all is to keep our heads and communicate within our society so that we can gain numbers, because if it’s just one or two of US at a time, we’ll all die. I don’t know how to do this, but the militias have a better chance of standing up. There is safety in numbers, if they were to kill 50 to 100 of US or more, and the media was there so that it wasn’t made to look like we were just “trouble makers”, breaking the law, and doing bad things and they had to kill US, we might get something going on and the rest of the country might see it and say “wait a minute, that’s not right”, gaining more numbers. If the entire country at once would stand up and say “NO”, this is wrong, you can’t take away our rights, we might stand a chance, but one or two here and there, ain’t gonna cut it. I mean what are the procedures of impeaching a president “by the people”? “For the people”? “We, the sheep”! How can we go about making a stand for our 2nd amendment rights? It has to be all at once or they’re gonna kill US as trouble makers and law breakers one at a time, two or three or even 8 to ten at a time. There are so many people out there that are just sheep, they are sleep walking and they fallow around behind anything that someone says without even thinking about it for themselves. How can you shake them and make them wake up. I’m so frustrated and sick of talking about this until I am blue in the face, and not even making a dent. I feel so disheartened, and I wonder sometimes if I’m the only one, then I’ll say something that makes a few of my “friends” say “yeah”, that’s right, but nothing gets done, they’ll just all go home and hope that it all goes away. AND IT WON’T! I have no earthly clue as of what to do, and I sure can’t do anything by myself. So God help us, all I know to do is pray. If somebody has an answer, please let me know. Contact me and let me know, PLEASE.

   Comment by Michael Rutherford — February 1, 2013 @ 6:56 pm

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   I read the list, what bullshit! I didn’t see my 1950′s Russian SKS, but it does have a pistol grip built in the folding stock. How about a Saiga 223 with no pistol grip and a 5 or 10 round magazine? This will never pass either the House or the Senate, this bill is like Fienstien, Schummer and Dubin crazy and ate up with the dumb ass! Stupid laws that don’t come close to solving the problem! We need new politicans not more gun laws. And we need term limits to get rid of the old buttheads in both houses!

   Comment by Wylebilly — February 1, 2013 @ 7:57 pm

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   So can we take the old assault weapons ban back to court and possibly get it overturned based on this new document by the gov? SCOTUS did say weapons in common use and the weapons of today could fall under this category.

   Comment by bbluelou — February 1, 2013 @ 8:58 pm

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   To the above post; I don’t know who elected Feinstein either but it sure wasn’t me. It looks like the assault ban won’t pass nationally but California is totally under attack. As if 10 round mags and billet buttons weren’t bad enough they want it all. I pray for the day that Feinstein, Boxer, and Miller and the people who voted for them get stuck in an LA riot and are alone with just a butter knife. Wish I could leave to Texas, but times are hard and employment is where you find it. Just wish the rest of the states voters hadn’t had their heads up their butts last election.

   Comment by Calif sucks — February 2, 2013 @ 12:30 am

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   The SCOTUS definition of the weapons protected under the 2nd Amendment was defined in their US vs Miller decision back in 1939. It wasn’t “sporting” arms. It was arms that would be used by a militia. In other words, the 2nd Amendment protects the right of the people to keep and bear “military type weapons”. This was part of the *US Government’s* argument too!!! Going by that definition, an AR-15 would be considered sub-standard.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller

   Comment by K — February 2, 2013 @ 12:47 am

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    MY QUESTION IS……IF AN ASSAULT WEAPON IS ONLY GOOD FOR THE BATTLEFIELD…THEN WHY ARE THE POLICE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON FOR DEFENSIVE PURPOSE??….IT SEEMS TO ME THIS IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE ROLE OF THE POLICE TO OUTFIT THEM WITH A MILITARY USE ONLY WEAPON….OR IS IT ACTUALLYY TRUE THAT AR 15 RIFLES AND THE LIKE ARE A RESONABLE CHOICE FOR SELF DEFENSE…FOR IF THEY ARE NOT…TH EPOLICE SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM EITHER….NOT TO TAKE THE TOOLS AWAY FROM THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US…JUST ANOTHER OBSERVATION TO PROVE THE DOUBLE STANDARDS GUN CONTROL IS USING….SPECIAL WEAPONS ARE FOR SWAT USE…BUT EVEN THAT IS REGULATED BY THE FACT THAT A CIVILIAN FORCE CANNOT…LAY DOWN COVER FIRE LIKE A MILITARY OPERATION DOES…KEPP THE FAITH..KEEP FIGHTING!!NRA.ORG…NRA.ORG…NRA.ORG

    Comment by PETE OBE — February 2, 2013 @ 12:49 am

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    The best personal defense aid is equitable or superior to whatever may be used against me, you, or us. Why did so many settlers flee Europe or their other homelands? The 2nd ammendment was ratified, for example, to ensure the public would be equiped to fight against an army (British generally at that time) to ensure the greedy whims of the monarchy would have no power in the new world. The purpose of the 2nd ammendment was to ensure the wealthy didn’t tyranize and take advantage of the poor to the point of war or revolution in which you-know-who loses and remains or becomes enslaved. It’s only a matter of time before history repeats itself in this young nation as it did so many times “across the pond”, and the framers knew this. Time has passed since the Bill of Rights was written and monopolies are growing. They didn’t aquire their wealth through philanthropy; they are definately out to get you and that’s not paranoia, it’s just a simple fact of life. Now, lobby groups generally promote interests of the 1% whom basically own the government in a progressively increasing and obvious way. The question is, “When the government officials rely on a corporation for their career’s stability, and that corporation decides it’s capable and ready to enslave the masses [including those government officials], will you have the personal defense aids necessary to defend your freedom in this modern technological age, or will you be stuck with rusty armor?”

    Comment by Johnny5 — February 2, 2013 @ 1:18 am

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    How does a pistol grip, adjustable stock or any of the other furniture make a rifle more dangerous? I can’t wait until they get around to pistols. Pistols without grips. While they’re at it why not remove sights from all guns too. So stupid! Here’s an idea, let’s chip in and buy Frankenstein a Guns For Dummies book.

    Comment by Robert Green — February 2, 2013 @ 1:30 am

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    I read a great majority of that nonsense and after I was done laughing, I saw a couple things of note… (for those who don’t want to read the whole thing).

    This “Law” only affects firearms manufactured after the ban would go into effect.

    Pg 2
    It appears that all semi-auto pistols are banned.

    No mention of revolvers, except for “shotguns with a revolving magazine” (pg 4), so I guess the Rossi Circuit Judge is out.

    Pgs 5-9
    Rimfire rifles that look like “AR”s are out (various models listed).

    Pg 11
    The term ‘barrel shroud’ means a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a firearm so that the shroud protects the user of the firearm from heat generated by the barrel.

    So… The barrel of the gun is what generates all of that heat. I always thought it was the combustion of the powder that caused a gun to get hot…

    Pg 13 (this one made me laugh)
    “(46) The term ‘pistol grip’ means a grip, a thumb hole stock, or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.”

    Last time I checked, I had to “grip” the stock of any rifle in order to fire it…

    Also on Pg 13
    There is a grandfather clause, so no seizing your guns you already own, even if they are by their terms an “assault weapon.”

    Pg 22
    Magazines look to be out period if they hold more than 10 rounds (although I may have misread something).

    Page 24
    The Mini-14, Mini-30, and any SKS with a fixed 10 round magazine and fixed stock are listed as exempt.

    Pg 122
    They will offer a voluntary buy back of any banned gun.

    Pgs 119-122
    The only thing that that would affect individual sales of any “grandfathered” firearm is that it would have to be sold to another party through a dealer.

    They had to have put more time and research into creating the exempt guns list than they did researching real facts about gun violence. There are 95 pages averaging about 22 guns per page, so about 2100 individual models of guns in all. I wonder who the poor soul was that had to do all of that work (even if they were anti-gun, I still feel a little sorry for them).

    Overall, its just another waste of our governments time. And remember, Feinstein is well-trained with a handgun and also has a concealed-carry permit.

    Comment by Kory Miller — February 2, 2013 @ 1:39 am

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    We go back to the simple question of “What part of “shall not be infringed” do they not understand”. Any firearms restriction law written since 1791 is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

    Comment by cmblake6 — February 2, 2013 @ 1:41 am

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    All I wanted for Christmas was a rifle the gun I was looking at was being sold forabout a grand. After the tragic event in Connecticut the same rifle selling at twice that amount if you can find one .and while I can understand supply and demand .I believe the reaction to not allowing the rifles to be sold was a knee jerk reaction .as an american I already feel like my rights have been abused it is and should be my right to own what I chose to possess period .I’m a loyal American citizen I donot feel that we should be punished for the lunatic actions of thefew the lame the cowards .im an enthusiast because if have respect for what these weapons are not what there capable of doing .just want to do so sport shooting just no enjoyment in a five shoot yawns .America rules so should it’s rights …

    Comment by john — February 2, 2013 @ 2:05 am

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    A knife is an assault weapon !!!!!! George

    Comment by George Short — February 2, 2013 @ 2:06 am

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    We’ve spent billions of dollars sending small arms to other countries so they could overthrow despotic leaders. Now our government passes the NDA allowing random murder of United States Citizens and they want to restrict our choices of firearms because they don’t have a “sporting purpose.”

    The 2nd Amendment has to do with “skeet shooting” and “sporting purposes”, the same way that the 1st Amendment has to do with The Barney Show and PeeWee Herman.

    Comment by Bob D. — February 2, 2013 @ 2:17 am

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    We live in a lazy generation. What can someone else do fo me? (by the way that’s not a question I ask its what most of the people ask) I mean Why do we need someone else to tell the American People what we can and cannot have. Our Country allows freedom of speech but only when they agree with what you’ve said. We were built on God and guns. Fighting for our freedoms. I’m ashamed of the direction our Country is going in. Do these politians not stop and think of their children or grandchildren? What I’m trying to say is if you disarm Law Abiding Citizens all the countries that hate us will take over and their children and grandchildren will be slaves to these terrorists. One thing about it if they go through with this they will have a fight on their hands. It will be us vs our government military. It will be Civil War ll. Someone once said America will destroy itself from the inside out….and here we go. We should not depend on our government so much that we can’t think for ourselves. Fasten your seltbelts we are in for the rise of our lives!!!

    Comment by Rachel Dugan — February 2, 2013 @ 2:57 am

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    I’ve come to learn my .22 Glennfield is, in some people’s eyes, an assault weapon. I’ll never be able to look at ol’ trusty the same way again.

    Comment by Crash — February 2, 2013 @ 3:15 am

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    Just as the dictators of the past they seek to make it impossibile to defend ourselves from them. With the other radical gun regulations they are speeking of such as the international registration it would be easy. That as if not obvious is the only goal they have.

    Comment by Lance McDowell — February 2, 2013 @ 3:20 am

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    “All that is required for evil [read-tyranny] to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” Mr. Edmund Burke

    To Mr. Rutherford….Don’t give up! Keep talking! If those of us who see and understand the garden path our government is taking us down become the “silent” majority, then the minority will rule. And that is the definition of tyranny! The minority imposing their will without regard to the rights and will of the majority. That’s where we are headed.

    To Mr. Wylebilly, you are so right! We have an elitist class of career politicians who assume they know what’s better for the entire rest of the country than the majority does! Term limits are the only answer, the only way to get back to the “citizen politician”, formerly known as a PUBLIC SERVANT, now known as a career leech!! They need to be reminded that they serve US, the citizens, and serve only at the sufferance of the citizens.

    To Mr. Watson, yes, indeed, they are all BOOBS! Vote them out! Become active in politics in your area, find someone running for office who believes like you believe, then go gung ho and support them! Democrat, Republican, Independent, doesn’t matter. And if you find that their word is only “skin deep” vote them out next go around!

    To all my fellow American Patriots, but especially to those ZOMBIES who are walking around in a daze while the political elite trample our rights, remember your heritage! Remember your rights, the ones that so much blood has been shed to protect! Remember your spirit, your independence, your self-reliance! It is time for us, the citizenry, to recall our purpose to heart. Don’t just sit there! DO SOMETHING!~

    Much love for my God, my country, my flag, and my fellow Americans,
    Wendy

    Comment by VA Gun Owner — February 2, 2013 @ 3:35 am

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    If you believe the Government will be consistent with definitions you are fooling only yourself. For example, the definition of bulk storage of oil under air pollution regulations is 20,000 gallons. The definition under 40 CFR 112 is a 55 gallon container which is designed to hold 42 gallons. They can change definitions at a whim and with only a 30 day notice of rulemaking. They can even get around that minor bump in the road. By the way the 55 gallon definition was made by a judge in California and then later incorporated into the regulation. The law authorizing the regulation does not address the issue.

    They current gun grabbers are only concerned about weapons that pose a threat to the establishment of a government that is not concerned with liberty. The Revolutionary War was started not because of taxation, impressment, the killing of people protesting the laws but because the government was moving to take guns, ammunition, powder, and cannons (the most powerful military weapon) away from the people. Virginia did not decide to leave the Union until after Federal troops were sent to capture militia owned cannons, powder, and guns in Fairfax County.

    Fienstien, Obama, etc., are careful to say personal defence and sporting uses are fine they only want to remove dangerous unneeded guns from the people. They have already virtually eliminated automatic weapons, large caliber weapons (shooting someone with a gun over .50 caliber is a war crime), eliminated explosives and explosive devices, prohibited effectively even the cannon that we fought to protect over 200 years ago much less allowing us to have the same weapons the military has like our forefathers did.

    P.S Hunting is not a legal right. Animals we hunt are owned by the state. The state allows them to be hunted or not. That is what a hunting license and limits are for. They can stop hunting or how you hunt at any time for whatever reason the law allows. Think about that when they say hunting weapons are going to be protected. Many states prohibit hunting with rifles (shot gun or primitive rifles only). Suddenly your prized pre 70 bolt action is “not needed for hunting and or personal defence”.

    They gun grabbers will settle for anything for now. They are the camel with their nose under the tent. They know that if allowed they just need to keep trying and soon they will be in the tent and we won’t be able to kick them out.

    w

    Comment by Brian Hillis — February 2, 2013 @ 3:38 am

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    OK. It’s nice to know that my NEF Pardner Pump, is an “assault weapon”? When did that happen? We got real problems, like we have been saying all along. They ARE in fact after all guns. Even shotguns with “rotating cylinders”. The 1874 Sharps? I was looking at an entire lists of O/U and side-by shotguns. It’s late and I might be punchy, so could someone else look over the list and verify that for me? Just like everything else that the Fed does. The people running the respective Depts., are usually the least qualified person for that job. Just look at the title! “Semiautomatic Assault Weapons” contradiction in terms to say the least. They are trying to get us, to be as technically ignorant as them. Once again, people who know absolutely nothing about the subject matter, are the ones making up the rules and writing the rule-books!

    Comment by robert — February 2, 2013 @ 3:39 am

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    i think that the line should be drawn at real military weapons like fully automatic weapons and flame throwers and grenade launchers which you can legally own with the proper permits, but a semi auto that looks mean doesn’t make it any more affective, it is just another way for them to control use, but we were born to fight just like are fathers did to protect our right

    Comment by andy — February 2, 2013 @ 3:51 am

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    All this “assault weapons” talk is not about paramilitary guns. It’s not even about semi-auto firearms, large-cap magazines, or stocks with pistol grips. It’s about the vilification of gun owners. Period. After the Feinstein and Bloomberg types spend enough money and rhetoric (with the willing assistance of the mainstream media) marginalizing law-abiding gun owners, the knee-jerk reactionary public will ultimately demand complete disarmament of all citizens. And if the House of Representatives goes back to the liberals, they’ll accomplish it. Very bad times ahead for the US Constitution.

    Comment by Jeff Coppes — February 2, 2013 @ 3:59 am

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    I have no faith that our current goverment will do anything right.
    They have cramed so many things that are perverted and right up to slaping our
    God in the face.
    We do have some good people fighting for our rights, but they need help. Support your
    reps, pro gun in DC. and
    the NRA, they are working hard for (We The People) and dont forget it.

    Comment by B Burke — February 2, 2013 @ 4:02 am

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    just to correct you. in new york its gov. cuomo not mayor

    Comment by tom — February 2, 2013 @ 4:07 am

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    I think the best PDW is the one a person is comfortable with and practices with often. I could easily use any of my firearms as a PDW. I suppose situation dictates which would be best though. If a criminal was breaking into my house my Mossberg 12ga or Glock 19 would be best, and I’d use whichever is closest at the time. For the far-fetched “zombie apocalypse” scenario (read: the government goes tyrannical) believe it or not I’d probably stick to my Ruger 10/22 to keep any threats as far away as possible.

    I *would* say that I’d use my AR-15 for that instead, except I am sadly late to the game and don’t have one, and am constantly looking for one that isn’t priced through the roof (and yeah… it’s just not happening.)

    Comment by Adam L — February 2, 2013 @ 4:20 am

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    The AR-15 isn’t even in my PDW vocabulary. I’m not going to fumble with a rifle of any kind in the dark(after being awoken by a b&e). My go to for home defense is my Beretta Px4 .45 set up with trijicon night sights and a streamlight. If that’s not enough I’ll go to my supernova tactical that I also keep at hand. Don’t get me wrong, I love my ARs but, they aren’t my home defense solution. I use them for target shooting and run and gun training. If I were to use my ARs for any kind of personal defense it would be in a shtf situation. Or maybe to protect myself from a tyranical government. After all, isn’t that the point of the second amendment anyway?

    Comment by Owen — February 2, 2013 @ 4:33 am

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    I think we should ban forks and spoons that are capable of holding more than a ounce. Obesity kills and if we limit the size of the utensil then surely we would not get overweight.

    Comment by Daniel — February 2, 2013 @ 4:39 am

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    All these crazy socialist politicians will do any thing to look like there backing our socialist pig president. I wish the American people would wake up and see what these idiots are trying to do to us. Wake up america. They are going to take our rights away with our guns. And what are u goin to do then. Don’t come to my house cause I have a lot of assault weapons that I am not givin up. Good luck to who try’s to get them. U will leave in a bag.

    Comment by Bobby Hewitt — February 2, 2013 @ 4:39 am

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    Weapons that the democrats would allow us (grudgingly) for hunting have their origins in the bolt action rifles doughboys carried into the trenches in world war one. The technology has advanced since then and now we have more ergonomic rifles that suffer from less muzzle climb making them even more effective for hunting. But that misses the real point the democrats are after. They want an unarmed citizenry so that they can be more easily controlled. If the problem is criminals using guns, make the penalty for the use of a weapon while damage without using a gun. Think of the 911 hijackers who only wielded box cutters, no guns were needed in order to crash 4 airlines. Or Timothy McVeigh who destroyed a building with a truck full of fertilizer and racing fuel. I do agree that there needs to be a way to check on violent mental patients but rarely do they give us a clear picture of their future plans with any clarity that will allow us to single them out and prevent them from getting weapons. The world is not made of nerf. There will be bad things that happen that we won’t be able to predict and prevent. Taking the means of self defense away from those of us who are not violent criminals does nothing whatsoever to make any of us safer. Indeed, it only makes the world safe for corrupt and despotic rulers who don’t want to suffer the wrath of voters and citizens who finally are unwilling to allow the corruption we see from both parties and try to lawfully correct the system.

    Comment by Paul — February 2, 2013 @ 4:40 am

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    I agree with the definition above of a PDW. I don’t agree with 6+ month waiting periods for these types of weapons, but at least they are an option at this point. I do question the constitutionality of the NFA of 1934, but that’s another can of worms. The ‘need’ for such arms, as the opponents would say, comes from, “What am I defending against?”. If it’s some crack head trying to grab my wife and steal my wallet, a revolver would probably do the trick. But, I as an American I also believe in defending the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic. I hope to never have to go to that extreme, but it’s my right to be prepared to that extent, if I so desire.
    Some people like to go bowling on Thursday, I like to shoot up old cars with an M2. What’s the big deal? Do I need select fire? Do I need a car with 300 horsepower? A 30 round beer box?

    Comment by M Crabb — February 2, 2013 @ 4:42 am

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    i find this hard to believe but i am about to suggest that we need more legislation. specificly that we require a mental health evalulation for all reps as well as there staff to determine fittness to serve in the gov. i realize that may leave us leaderless (i use the term loosely) but that might be a good thing. jim

    Comment by james becker sr — February 2, 2013 @ 4:43 am

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    In my opinion the best Personal Defense Weapon (PDW) is the one that you as the “defender” are capable of using to stop any aggresion on part of any criminal.
    It does not matter if you’re defending yourself , family or someone else who is
    facing serious bodily injury or death inflicted by a criminal…if you fear serious bodily injury to yourself or another you are justified in deadly physical force to defend yoursself and others. The weapon of choice is what you are capable of using
    effectively (within limits). The limits of which would be the weapon’s capability
    to stop the threat faced. I personally would NOT use an AR-15 in my home, I would use
    a Mossberg 500 JIC, Remington 870 (18 inch barrrel), The Judge (.45&.410), any of high capacity semi automatic pistols, or revolvers (5 or 6 shots) (the latter would be my least favorite). In my opinion AR-15 are better for distance shots, but I dont consider ARs to be best personal defense weapons for the home or personal carry unless over-run by an invading army. That’s just my opinion.

    Comment by Amazjohn — February 2, 2013 @ 5:27 am

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    We have dangerous assault weapons, yet the government gets warm and fuzzy personal defense weapons with that fun select fire switch.

    Maybe Feinstein is right. We don’t need assault weapons, rather we need personal defense wespons.

    Comment by steve0 — February 2, 2013 @ 5:32 am

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    How about a different look at this gun grab BS…..they (the progressive losers) want to control law abiding Americans by disarming them (us)…we all know how this has turned out throughout history…..Yet, istead of banning guns, and lame background checks….just ask ONE question to determine whether someone can own a firearm…..WHAT POLITICAL AFFILIATION ARE YOU?….if you look at that of the shooters to at least 1998, about 95% are or were Democrats, or had parents that were….it’s strange, but this could very well end the “gun free” zone mass shootings that will more than likely keep occuring, REGARDLESS of stupid “restrictions” on LAW ABIDING CONSERVATIVES…..

    Comment by Leslie Hobgood — February 2, 2013 @ 5:40 am

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    My AR15 is the weapon that I have to protect me and my family from a tyrannical government, just as was outlined by the authors of the 2nd amendment Please read a great book by David Barton entitled “second Amendment” where he quotes many founders, and contemporaries of the Bill Of Rights passing stating the real reason for citizens maintaining arms in their houses. Protection from government not other criminals.
    Also it is very interesting when you read what the soviets say was a great fear of theirs and a principle reason they never thought of invasion of the USA-”a well armed citizenry”.

    Comment by Thomas Matlock — February 2, 2013 @ 5:49 am

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    the reason none of this jives with THE FACTS regarding crime statistics, public safety, etc. – and I know alot of people here already know this – is that it has nothing to do with that… it is about disarming the populace as to minimize resistance to a tyrannical government.

    People, even those who would normally consider themselves/be considered ‘awake’, just can’t wrap their heads around that and fall back into the (indoctrinated) mindset of ‘it can’t happen here’.

    Well Virgina, it IS happening – right before our eyes. These types don’t think in terms of months or even years, but decades and generations… but those of us with eyes to see, realize the pace is accelerating.

    This happens and They do that… then that happens and They do this. It seems to make no sense because They’ve been pi$$ing on our legs for so long and insisting it’s raining, that we believe it. It’s like the abused wife that keeps telling herself that her abuser really does love her. NO, the evidence shows the TRUTH.

    The EVIDENCE shows – the ONLY way any of this sh!t in the last hundred years or so makes ANY sense – our government, hell, our minds, has/have been infiltrated… their egos have them convinced that ‘communism/socialism/totalitarianism works’, the right people(meaning THEM) just haven’t been in charge yet. (as if they would somehow NOT be living under the same jackboot tactics)

    TRUTH requires no ‘spin’ and gladly invites additional scrutiny… their(the gun grabbers) entire proposal relies on people being uneducated/misdirected.

    Comment by Tony in NC — February 2, 2013 @ 5:52 am

40. 

    What do you consider an acceptable Personal Defense Weapon for the masses?

    Honestly, what are you trained on? Many answers for many people. Someone who knows very little about a gun I would imagine a revolver would be the best choice, than after that a basic 12 gauge pump such as the 870. If you know very little about guns, it would be wise to be familiar with them and receive training. The more you know the safer we are.

    My opinion about Feinstien’s agenda…it won’t pass. Congress won’t let it happen. It’s too impractical. Congress isn’t going to run with emotion on this one. Modifying our rights is infringement on our 2nd amendment.

    Comment by Aaron — February 2, 2013 @ 6:05 am

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    I think David Keene said it best. He quoted District of Columbia v. Heller. The court ruled an individual had the right to bear arms and also defined “arms” as being firearms of common use. There are over 4 million AR-15s in the hands of America and it is the most common sporting rifle in the world. I’d say that was “common use.” Also, a 30 round magazine is “commonly used” for these rifles.
    Everyone needs to go to Popvox.com…. Fill out your name, email address, and zip code. You can see all the bills that are currently in congress and click support or oppose on each and a letter will automatically be sent to your representatives. It’s super easy. You can also track each bills status.

    Comment by Don — February 2, 2013 @ 6:12 am

42. 

    I’m particularly concerned with her last paragraph of how she determines “unconstitutional”. Sounds like the whole bill is just that!

    Comment by Gordon Taylor — February 2, 2013 @ 6:12 am

43. 

    Ok, Mrs. Feinstein is a complete lunatic! The badguys will ALWAYS find a way around whatever psycho babble ban she and the rest of gun ignorant america can get their hands on. Hence why they are infact the “Badguys”. This entire issue stems from “Mentally Ill INDIVIDUALS” and “ILLEGALLY Obtained Firearms” as previously stated in the above published literature. This is obsurd! I actually can’t even wrap my head around the angle they are attempting to argue. Would someone please ask Mrs. Feinstein how many rounds she thinks she may need if someone hostile forces entry into her home. Something tells me she’ll be screaming for a more reasonable magazine capacity and a detachable magazine. However, she probably doesn’t have to worry about that because she lives in a gated community with an armed guard at the front. That last sentence is pure speculation regardless of probable truth. I am a Combat Veteran United States Marine (Honorably Discharged) and I am here to tell you that gun violence wouldn’t have happened in Aurora, Newtown, or Columbine if those kids couldn’t get their hands on the weapons. Aurora, perhaps he should’ve been screened. When it comes to children shooting children they can’t get hurt if they can’t get in the safe! And if there isn’t a safe then you should be burned at the stake because you are an arrogant fool who needs to be corrected. Aside from that, it’s all badguys shooting badguys and inflicting barbaric malice onto the good of this world. How are we to protect ourselves from the gang banger following us to our car in the christmas rush when we have a six shooter but he has a glock with 14 rounds?
    My next topic is what does she know about “Assault weapons”?! Did she google it? During this entire ordeal all I’ve seen is the news stations put a monkey on tv, give him a shiny new suit, and let him do “research” on google for about ten minutes before he goes on. Half of these clowns are actually referring to Greenland Police having 10mm pistols issued incase the encounter a bear. That’s because it stops the threat! That fact about Greenland doesn’t make it excessive by any means. If you can fire accurately and be quickly poised for a follow up shot of equal accuracy then the threat will be stopped and your home will be safe. This is a fact of training not caliber. If you cannot complete this objective then you have failed, you will miss, and your entire family is now in danger because you made them mad. If someone has a 10mm pistol (a .45cal is larger in diameter)and is not properly trained to use it then they are up a proverbial creek and that pistol of any caliber is rendered useless. I can sincerely go on forever about the falisies in this woman’s thinking and how the entire approach is so flawed that she’ll fall on her face and put the rest of the country who would’ve ahd a means of reasonable defense at risk to appease her own desire to make a difference. Hey Feinstein, make a real difference, the right way. Don’t just throw out moronic half prepped ideas because you think guns are scary because they have a weird grip or a detachable magazine. They’re actually made like that to enhance shooter comfort and the ability for many shapes sizes, skill, and comfort levels to shoot these weapons with reasonable proficiency only to be enhanced by proper training. Thusly earning the weapon the Military Service record it has because anyone can learn to shoot it in the “AR” platform. This lady is a collossal idiot and simply should be lashed for her foolish antics. That’s all the tension my heart can take right now. By all means everyone feel free to email me. for or against I don’t care just be mature and open minded, I will do the same.
    Take care everyone, be safe.

    Comment by Jay Freeman — February 2, 2013 @ 6:14 am

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    I agree 100% with Michael above. In reading his post, it was literally like reading my own mind. I too am at a loss and don’t know what to do to stop the growing control of the Government.
    I am stocking up what I can to protect myself and my family, and will most likely die when they come for my weapons, but I will die a free man. Without something to wake up Americans to the fact that our rights are dwindling away, we are screwed.
    I agree that militias are a good start, but gotta be careful not to be labeled as a kook.

    Comment by Dave — February 2, 2013 @ 6:15 am

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    First of all. I don’t, and have NEVER owned an “ASSAULT WEAPON”!!!… Never a one of my weapons have assaulted anyone. Second: Why is my M-4 called an “ASSAULT WEAPON”!!! when the police have the exact same gun and it’s called a “patrol rifle”. Sense I would never contradict the police in a formal equipment description. I won’t start now. It seems I have NOTHING to worry about. My “patrol rifle” is safe from attempted confiscation. Now the description of my “patrol rifle” may change if the commie’s come knocking. The future will tell….

    Comment by Bernie M. — February 2, 2013 @ 6:18 am

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    Great article..Its true the gun ban has nothing to do with self defence except against people like diane. her and the others are afraid of the people. cant control those who can stand and say no, and back it up…simple math a citizen without a gun is now a subject. and that is just want they want.

    Comment by Terry — February 2, 2013 @ 6:33 am

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    If congress and the American people listen to these fools (Obama, Pelosi, Feinstein, Holder, Bloomberg, Biden, Cuomo and Malloy; we may start the second Civil WAR started by a Senator from Illinois turned President. And for same reasons: taking of property through illegal executive orders and unconstitutional laws and action by congress. This is the most dangerous unconstitutional act I have ever seen. If we as free citizens fall to stop the Democrats from enacting this we sold our selves into a slavery and oppression. New Yorkers have already GIVEN UP THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS with out so much as a wimper. God Help us.

    Comment by maddog458 — February 2, 2013 @ 6:42 am

48. 

    I can’t wait to have my PDW full auto now just like theirs’

    Comment by Kevin Lenz — February 2, 2013 @ 6:46 am

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    I have a loaded 9mm by the bed, and a 357 and s&w governor in the kitchen. First two are loaded with critical defense rounds. Governor is loaded with two sets of #4 Turkey, 000 Buck, 45lc critical defense. First shot slows them down with a guaranteed hit. Second shot stops them in their tracks, and third shot kills them. If anything really bad goes down, I have a loaded Saiga 12 Mag, Saiga 7.62 Mag, and a 10 rd Vepr 7.62x54r Mag with steel core surplus ammo just in case they’re wearing body armor. I consider every one of those to be personal defense weapons. Whether or not they’re used in personal defense just depends on the situation. In most cases the 9mm or a single one of the revolvers would be enough. But in the case of the Newtown shooting, if someone had heard the first set of gunshots and ran into the school with a scoped Vepr loaded with armor piercing 7.62x54r, the story may have been different. One shot center mass would’ve killed him, even with his body armor on.

    Comment by Andrew — February 2, 2013 @ 6:47 am

50. 

    Michael and Dave are quite right.
    Chris commented about a mini 14, which I have 2 of the target ranch model-Wood stock with a thumb hole. They came stock that way. So will they be illegal weapons? I bought 30 round mags for them that will certainly make them illegal if these bans pass.
    One of them, I changed to a synthetic folding stock w/rails and pistol grips, light, laser bi-pod etc. IT IS THE SAME GUN. IT DID NOT BECOME MORE DANGEROUS, EXCEPT TO SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO ATTACK MY PROPERTY AT NIGHT.
    I am going to preach to the choir here; The problem is not guns or law abiding people with guns. The problem is that there are some sick people out there doing sick things. These people are mental and should have never had access to firearms. Who let them?
    I remember when the most of the crazies were locked in an institution. Now so many are free to roam the streets. (Thanks to the ACLU).
    Aren’t the background checks federal already? I mean, if someone can’t get a gun in Utah due to being a felon, they can not just go to Kansas and get one.

    Comment by Rob — February 2, 2013 @ 6:52 am

51. 

    If you look at the CT assault weapons ban it reads very much like the proposed ban.

    Comment by john — February 2, 2013 @ 6:56 am

52. 

    The only way to deal with this crap is to treat it like the bully on the block.
    Kick his ass!
    They will never listen to reason. Why waste your breath? They have an agenda and will stick to it at all cost.
    We must have our own agenda! We are strong in numbers!

    Comment by David Grossi — February 2, 2013 @ 7:00 am

53. 

    Why do people keep calling BLACK GUNs (AR and AKS types) “ASASULT WEAPONS”? They are not weapons of any kind until they are used for unintended purposes, as knife is just a knife until it is used to stabs or cut someone then it’s becomes a weapon, a screwdriver is just that until it is use to inflict injury to death on someone then it to becomes a weapon. The AR-15, AK-47 and guns like them are simply firearms and we must stop call them weapons and until they are turned into such. Even then it is a singular name not one identifying an entire family of firearms know a BLACK GUNS. The so called GUN Culture needs to correct this misaligned attitude and use the correct names. IF we keep letting them be referred to as WEAPONS; we are asking for trouble and to lose them to illegal laws, TODAY they BAN THE BLACK GUN TOMORROW WE BAN the SCREWDRIVER WEAPONS!!!!!
    THINK ABOUT IT CORRECT NONMENCLATURE means everything you don’t go the Lowes to get a nut and ask for a bolt, do you?

    Comment by maddog — February 2, 2013 @ 7:07 am

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    A recent letter to my Senators.

    I am writing you today to ask that you SUPPORT any mental health reforms addressing deficiencies in the mental health system and OPPOSE any further gun control that would erode my Second Amendment right. Prohibitions against alcohol and drugs only lead to the establishment of underground markets for such items. Further restricting the rights of law-abiding gun owners through more gun bans, magazine bans, and/or federal gun databases would only do the same. People with mental and/or moral problems will always find ways to commit acts of violence using whatever mean is available. Further restriction of my rights to “bare arms” does not disarm criminals; no, to the contrary, it only restricts me from obtaining and using firearms to protect myself and my family. You might ask who needs a semi-automatic rifle or high capacity magazine. I would counter, who needs an automobile that does over 120 miles per hour when most speed limits in America are 70 or 75? Can it be because we enjoy driving fast cars? A gun or a car is not the problem; it is what people do with them! You cannot legislate morals!
    My wife and I are in our late sixties and until recently never felt the need to own a gun. This was true even while raising two daughters in the crime ridden Washington, DC area for nearly thirty years. Even though we are both retired and have lived in West Virginia for more than fifteen years, we recently purchased a handgun and both obtained concealed pistol/revolver permits. We took this action due to the moral decline we see happening throughout America, we no longer believe our local, state, and/or federal governments can or will protect us in the future. In fact, we consider them OUR PROBLEM. Through self-motivation for re-election and unconscionable reckless spending Congress excelled at “bringing home the bacon.” Now we face a debt that any NORMAL PERSON who pays the bills would find unacceptable. I fear my grand kids are already slaves, they just do not know it yet. We need someone in Congress more worried about how GOD will judge them, than how they will get re-elected! Class warfare is not the solution! Congress said that our debt problem was the richest of the rich not paying their fair share. Therefore, Congress forced a tax increase on them to solve the problem. Yet, we all know that you could take all their money and it would not come close to making a dent in our national debt. Please stop the madness of class warfare! People do not need you to “redistribute” the wealth; no, we need you to “redistribute” the work ethic that made this country so great. How can you continue to justify giving money away when you have to borrow it to do so? It makes no sense!
    Here are some reasons why I feel the need to obtain these high capacity weapons and magazines. First, because the Second Amendment ensures my right to protect myself against whatever threat I perceive; AND RIGHT NOW, I perceive my government as my biggest threat. Our ancestors came from intrusive governments and wanted no part of that in America. The Second Amendment was their way of protecting the people against the “tyranny” of a “over controlling”government. My own government has become so intrusive in how I can live my life, that it is a bigger threat to my freedom than random acts of violence by a few mentally derange persons. Second, America is destined for financial collapse unless Congress begins to demonstrate some fiscal restraint. When a collapse happens, we really will have class warfare between “working” versus “entitled” classes. I believe that when the money runs out (and it will) my government has already programmed an “entitled” class to feel “entitled” to whatever they want from whoever has it. Anarchy (or crime) is becoming a bigger threat to me than random acts of violence by a few mentally derange persons. Third, the threats against America are enormous and real. There are religions and countries that plot everyday to destroy us. We only have to look at the dismal failures of “big government” to provide timely aide to disaster victims to realize we must be capable to fend for ourselves indefinitely. We will only be free as long as “the people” are willing to defend freedom themselves. When we look at the external threats to this country, all we need to do is look back in history to the Alamo to see why the people need to be armed. Terrorism is a bigger threat to me than random acts of violence by a few mentally derange persons.
    As a law-abiding citizen, I intend to used and store any weapon I might purchase in a responsible manner. Please keep your eye on the ball and do not be distracted by this issue. Unless you can get Congress to address real problems facing America, people will continue to feel a need to purchase more weapons because their perceived threats are bigger than random acts of violence by a few mentally derange persons.

    Comment by Robert Jordan — February 2, 2013 @ 7:09 am

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    Yep… Janet Napalatano at the DHS believes so strongly in the use of semiautomatic centerfire rifles, that she has ordered 7000 of these “ideal personal defense weapons” for her depts. Better yet, she is so convinced how ideal they are, many are select fire and full auto variants that hold 30rd magazines. Thank you DHS for helping the media clarify what a true assault rifle is, and what the ideal personal defense defense weapon is.

    http://www.activistpost.com/2013/01/why-are-ar-15s-personal-defense-weapons.html?m=1

    Comment by Chris — February 2, 2013 @ 7:09 am

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    @Michael Rutherford-After reading your post,I just wanted to say you are not alone.I am almost 50 years old and my parents raised me with old fashioned values,as I did my own children.They taught me to love this country and to embrace the ideas our founding fathers envisioned for our Republic.Mom & Dad are rolling in their graves seeing the path our nation is headed down.And yet,like you,I see so many people everyday who are just cruising thru life with their heads in the sand,Their only concern is who is going to win the superbowl and that they have a 50-inch TV to watch it on.They have no idea that a large part of our government is working very hard to destroy the constitution nor do they seem to care if informed.I feel that the character of most citizens has declined to a point that they will not wake up until its too late.I totally understand the frustration that you feel.What is really frustrating also is those of us who are patriots and want to see this country get back on the right path,are labelled as militants,terrorists,nutjobs,conspiracy freaks,etc.I feel your pain,brother!

    Comment by Brent Ballington — February 2, 2013 @ 7:10 am

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    Maybe Feistein (or whoever)is right!! We should all learn how to make explosive substances and how to place them around our homes in case we need to set them off for self defense. The Taliban does a good job with that in Afganistan. Of course, you might blow up your whole house in the process, but that is so much better than simply emptying your weapon at an intruder.

    Comment by Phil Pegues — February 2, 2013 @ 7:21 am

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    @Wylebilly…. Feinstein doesnt care about variations. She is trying to ban recievers by type: ALL AR, AK, and SKS actions are targetted in the ban in addition to anything that may be semiauto with those other features. The b! T (# only wants to allow us hethen citizens to have bolt action hunting rifles while she is surrounded by armed guards carrying full auto “personal defense weapons.” If this thing passes you can bet the next step will be to take “highpower long range sniper rifles” like your grandpa’s 30-06 out of civilian hands.

    Comment by chris — February 2, 2013 @ 7:26 am

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    I say they have nullified this bill by admitting in their own regs that an AR style rifle is a personal defense weapon. I know mine is. But let’s face it, it is about gun confiscation in order to progress us into communism. They can’t achieve their agenda without it.

    Comment by Jim — February 2, 2013 @ 7:27 am

60. 

    This gun control bull s— by this admin. is a smoke screen to divert attention away from the real problem in this country. The debt. They have robbed the Social Security trust fund to the tune of about five trillion dollars which will never get repaid. They can’t even pay the interest on these worthless treasury IOUs. If they don’t get off there ass and do something about the debt,gun control will be minor compared what could happen. I am a gun owner and and an NRA member. This ilk will never take my guns while I am alive.

    Comment by robert m harman — February 2, 2013 @ 7:30 am

61. 

    This legislation was created off Wiki by some person who has no clue. Without being specific, they just made your Model 94, and all the rest of the tubular magazine hunting rifles illegal!

    Stupid is as stupid does !

    Pat

    Comment by Pat — February 2, 2013 @ 7:31 am

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    Of course I’m preaching to the choir on this website but…

    1) Drunk driving was drastically reduced by focusing on the drunks, not the car they drove. Their focus can be on “violence”, not the invented term “gun violence”. That is one of the only purposes of government.

    2) The fact that the police choose an AR15 with a 30rd mag as their backup long gun is exactly why a lawful citizen should have that same choice. Same with a 12+rd mag in their sidearm.

    3) Self defense is a basic human right that takes nothing away from other people in order for you to have it. Politicians invent other rights, like healthcare, which take something from someone else in order for you to have it. That is wrong.

    4) States with less restrictive gun laws are proven to be safer, not because everyone is walking around with a gun but because the criminal does not know WHO is armed and who is not. It is an effective deterrent. Not everyone should be armed simply because everyone is different.

    5) New Yorkers are suffering from Gov Coumo’s SAFE ACT that was pushed through in the middle of the night. Stay involved with your elected officials who typically have no love for guns. Visit their offices and politely explain what it means to you and your family. When was the first time your dad took you to the range or hunting, etc. Represent yourself as a collector. Talk to them at their level.

    Remember it’s the drunks they need to focus on not the type of car they drive.

    Comment by John White — February 2, 2013 @ 7:35 am

63. 

    I recently converted a saiga .223. I was only able to add 1 evil feature as I live in NJ. I use the before and after pictures of that gun to demonstrate to anyone who will listen how the term “assault weapon” is a nonsense political term and only to be used for people who have no clue what they are talking about. Most refuse to listen and would prefer to continue chanting their ignorant mantra.

    Comment by Scott — February 2, 2013 @ 7:36 am

64. 

    Why do people keep call BLACK GUNs (AR and AKS types) “ASSAULT WEAPONS”? They are not weapons of any kind until they are used for unintended purposes, as knife is just a knife until it is used to stabs or cut someone then it’s becomes a weapon, a screwdriver is just that until it is use to inflict injury to death on someone then it to becomes a weapon. The AR-15, AK-47 and guns like them are simply firearms and we must stop call them weapons and until they are turned into such. Even then it is a singular name not one identifying an entire family of firearms know a BLACK GUNS. The so called GUN Culture needs to correct this misaligned attitude and use the correct names. IF we keep letting them be referred to as WEAPONS; we are asking for trouble and to lose them to illegal laws, TODAY they BAN THE BLACK GUN TOMORROW WE BAN the SCREWDRIVER WEAPONS!!!!!

    Comment by maddog458 — February 2, 2013 @ 7:41 am

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    http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/histn/histn043.htm
    This is how it all happened in the UK – a little bit at a time.
    First came the registration, then the confiscation and the total loss of rights to bear arms – only they didn’t have a 2nd Ammendment, we do don’t let the anti-gun fanatics infringe upon our rights.
    Write your elected officials and tell DO NOT support any registration or ban of firearms.

    Comment by DDM — February 2, 2013 @ 7:42 am

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    Lets see we have tripled the gun sales and to me that is stimulated the economy but they are worried about mass shooting the fact is all of those individuals had mental issues so what is the real issue I think the citizens and elected officials to regroup and think this whole process through. If we dont stand up our last line of defense is vanished and never will see it again. Youtube the conspiracies and educate yourself America before its too late.

    Comment by alan — February 2, 2013 @ 7:51 am

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    I totally agree with maddog. Don’t let the antis define our guns. I simply call them pistols and rifles, because thats what they are.

    Comment by Nomenclature cop — February 2, 2013 @ 7:52 am

68. 

    I agree with Michael Ruthrford above. We need more thinking individuals like him. The second amendment was created for more than what the media, most liberals, and many politicians think. Personal possession of firearms wasn’t just intended for hunting, or even person home defense from the gang bangers who want to take our stuff, rape our women, and kill us and our children. It was also, and probably importantly, instituted for two greater reasons. First, as a defense against enemies who would like to destroy the US of A, and if we weren’t currently so strong a military power, invade and take over. Well, the strength of our military is on the decline, due to our weak economy and bad political practices. If it continues, it’ll look to willing enemies, like front door to the US is weathered with rusting locks, and an outdated, possibly not working, alarm system. You get my analogy here? Second, the second amendment was instituted to prevent, and protect us should khan government become tyrannical. This I think is more likely, and already happening. Michael mentioned the concern about the military arsenal being used against the citzens of the US if this were to occur. How would we defend ourselves against that with grandpa’s shotgun? We couldn’t. I agree that should the political idiots in our government feel the need arise, this would probably be their plan of action. our enemies would love nothing more, too, then to see internal unrest of this level in the US. In my opinion, it would make a foreign enemie’s desire to invade us, more desirable. The good news Michael, is as a military member, my first oath is to protect and defend the constitution against ALL enemies, foreign AND domestic. This does not mean civilians only, with politicians exempt. There are many in the military who would not take the order to fire on American citizens for this reason alone. But I digress, I agree with Michael, we need a personal defense that though maybe not equal to a tank, would make invasion, and a tyrannical government, less likely to occur in the US. When it comes to the second amendment, defending our selves looks different in light of these two additional reasons for our second amendment.

    Comment by James — February 2, 2013 @ 7:58 am

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    I would only point to Dr. William Petit as a reason to own a defensive type weapon. If you do not know his story, then simply google his name and read the tragic events. Why any poliitcian would want a possible repeat of those events is hard to imagine. I do wish someone would take the time to get his thoughts on Personal Home Defense and whether or not it is a good idea to own a weapon to protect your families. He lived in CT. where they have just abolished the death penalty which in itself is hard to believe. America has gone crazy and the only way for Americans to protect themselves is for individuals to become a united group and FIGHT the government idiots that want to disarm Law Abiding Americans.

    Comment by Jerry — February 2, 2013 @ 8:08 am

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    I think its all in the bible and in history a lot of the comments on here were right and legit I’m x navy and have had a lot of training so any weapon in the right hands is acceptable but I do favor my tactical shotgun or sks a big problem is the fact that military recruiters recruit anyone to fill quotas so we have pot heads and nut jobs military trained in firearms and then they get kicked out for being retarded and use their new found skills to harm people and property

    Comment by travis bower — February 2, 2013 @ 8:11 am

71. 

    How come the new 7000 full auto weapons recently purchased by DHS are called “Personal Defense Weapons” whereas an AR-15 semi-auto purchased by a civilian is called an”Assault Weapon?”

    Comment by Jerry — February 2, 2013 @ 8:19 am

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    I hunt with a AR-15. Thats why i got one is to go hunting with. My buddy hunts with an SKS, and a 308 FN FAL. So I’am lost when they say so called assault weapons are not for hunting. Well hell if that true next time your at a magazine stand pick up the latest issue of AR15 magazine and flip throw the pages nothing but hunters with AR-15 hunting.

    Comment by seth aaron — February 2, 2013 @ 8:30 am

73. 

    How is it that you californians can continually reelect some one like Feinstein is nothing more then redefineing stupid! Good GOD!! Since when does she have any bussiness telling me or anyone what they need or do not need? She can go straight to H…

    Comment by JohnK — February 2, 2013 @ 8:32 am

74. 

    Germane to the original question of what might be “an acceptable PDW for the masses”, that’s a big question. Some of the “masses” might only be best suited to use an aluminum baseball bat! However, for the responsible citizen (maybe that needs some definition, too), in my opinion, it’s any weapon that I believe will give me at least equal, preferably superior, fire power to any potential threat from a bad guy. That’s why the present threat from Washington is so misguided and dangerous for responsible citizens.

    Comment by Tim — February 2, 2013 @ 8:37 am

75. 

    Not suitable for self defense? Then why did DHS order 7,000 ARs and refer to them as “Personal Defense Weapons”? Come on, guys, either they are suitable or they aren’t. Which is it? Get your stories straight. Oh – I get it. They’re suitable for the government, but not for us peons. Ri-i-i-ght. Who said AR15s are unsuitable for hunting. For 50+ years they have been in commercial circulation and sed for small & medium game hunting with great success. The .223 is a flat-shooting, low recoil round that anybody can handle. And finally, who said ANYTHING about “need”? The last I heard, the 2nd amendment was part of the Bill of RIGHTS – not the Bill of NEEDS. Get it? This is the result of allowing people with no brains to be Senators.

    Comment by DaveP326 — February 2, 2013 @ 8:42 am

76. 

    I keep my semi automatic pistol close in case I need to shoot my way to my AR.

    Comment by Matthew — February 2, 2013 @ 8:53 am

77. 

    FN P-90 is a pdw. Cheap ammo and select fire. Guns such as these should be available to all law abiding sane individuals.

    Comment by eric smith — February 2, 2013 @ 8:57 am

78. 

    This bill is not passing. The more people say that, the higher the prices get STOP IT!!!

    Comment by Joe — February 2, 2013 @ 9:04 am

79. 

    Oddly enough so few murders a committed with so called “assault weapons” that the FBI doesn’t even classify them as such, simply “rifle” which includes all rifle types. Which at no surprise constitute <4% of firearm murders. Far more people are killed with "fists" than rifles. Maybe we should cut off the hands of those who kill with bare hands.

    Comment by Matthew — February 2, 2013 @ 9:06 am

80. 

    As outlandish as some of the proposals are unless the conservatives start voting as a block like many of the other groups nothing we say will matter. It is the vote that matters not right or wrong when it comes to politics. Those that vote against gun rights never had to fight to gain anything. They have always been taken care of by government and that is what they want still. So we can talk all we want about how wrong the government may be, unless we start voting as a group get ready to give up your guns.

    Comment by David — February 2, 2013 @ 9:15 am

81. 

    The local authorities will only be there to investigate “after” the horror and heartache. At best they are a deterrent. That leaves me, my family, my neighbors and my fellow citizens to protect their loved ones and property and each other. I bet Feinstein is protected by the same weapons she wants to take from law abiding citizens. Sorry, not today, not tomorrow. It’s my second amendment right! If “they” start changing the Constitution, we’re doomed. Show your spirit, voice your opinion, and stand up!

    Comment by Chuck — February 2, 2013 @ 9:16 am

82. 

    When we focus on the details of the “who, what, when, where and how” as proposed by any regulatory body of the Government, it overlooks the basic primary question of “if”. Like a classic misdirection of any magician’s basic trick, it allows primary focus to be diverted from the real central issue.

    The first basic question in regard to any (gun or not)proposed regulation or legislation by governmental bodies at any level should not be regarding the details of the proposal, but if they are really empowered to exercise control of it at all, and if so, what the limitations of their authority might or should be.

    Precedent is equally important in law and in political situations. Once enacted in any form, the right to control, once established, is then usually pretty much a foregone conclusion. Then any subsequent additional controls possible, based on the basic premise, may not even a matter for public discussion since they are within administrative management pervue.

    We have the best governmental and legal systems in the world, with the best general track record of success in man’s history. One of the reasons for this is the flexibility and “checks and balances” built into it originally. It’s not perfect, and it allows for cultural and societial experimentation based on the perceived needs of the moment, guided by the basic framework structure and the constitution. It does require that we pay attention, stay involved, and not be misdirected from the basic question of if.

    Any group, including political or regulatory ones, will tend to act like an individual organisim with the goal of both growth and survival as basic overiding considerations for almost any action, regardless of their stated purpose.

    The second ammendments language is pretty clear, and at least one of it’s intents is still valid even today. As a foreign power contemplating an agressive action against the US, the idea that 21+ million hunters, privately armed and self motivationally trained, take to the field every year on average, would provide some long pause for reflective thought, and that figure doesn’t include those armed for self- defense, or the target shooters. The argument could be made, and not be too far fetched, that “gun control” is against the basic national security interests of the US.

    It might also be worth recalling that when the right to bear arms was recognised, every fire arms owning citizen had an “assault” weapon, basically on a par with then current military technology.

    Stay focused on the if, and not be distracted by the “slight of hand” regarding the details, untill after the first, far more important question is addressed.

    Comment by Bill — February 2, 2013 @ 9:18 am

83. 

    I believe your “Exhibit A” concerning the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Personal Defense Weapons Solicitation missed the language that shows it was only meant for use by the Government and not civilians. This is also apparent in the title, by the way. So I would not quote this as an argument as it would be shot down in 2 seconds. I still believe the second amendment was very clear that we the people are the militia and our weapons are not only for personal defense but defense of the Constitution and the Country! See excerpts you missed below:

    3.4 Warranty.
    3.4.1 The Contractor shall warrant the firearm for at least one (1) year from the date of delivery of the firearm to the Government. The manufacturer shall repair or replace firearms due to defects in material or workmanship.
    3.4.2 During the period of the warranty, the Government will ship defective item (s) back to the manufacturer’s facility for repair or replacement. The Contractor shall be responsible for all return shipping charges.

    Comment by Sanity Check — February 2, 2013 @ 9:19 am

84. 

    The biggest mistake that Americans have made is to put people in political office who are semi-to-fully ignorant of firearms….how they function, how they can be used for self defense etc. The obvious ultimate purpose of firearms under the Second Amendment is to have a means of civilians to resist a tyranical government gone out of control. NO ONE mentioned that at recent Senate hearings because it would have been way too in your face with there likes of Feinstein, Schumer, Durbin etc right there at the hearing. It would have been too unthinkable to have stated that one of the MAJOR underlying reasons that citizens choose to be armed is to prevent the likes of a left wing….Obama/Feinstein/Schumer/Durbin etc….trying to completely control the lives of the American people. They could not handle the prospect of an armed citizenry resisting their totalitarian, socialist, marxist mindset.

    Comment by Steve923 — February 2, 2013 @ 9:20 am

85. 

    Ladies and Gentleman,
    All the discussions will not help with the end results unless: We vote to preserve the things we have and need. We cast these votes with two types of ballots. A paper ballot with names and check marks, and a more powerful ballot called “the dollar”. To protect our rights we must stand together and VOTE. Using our most powerful vote “the dollar” will ensure we retain our rights. Look what happened in PA when 300 venders pulled out of the show. That is the power we must use to keep our rights.

    Comment by Mike — February 2, 2013 @ 9:22 am

86. 

    This gun ban threat is part of the new economic recovery plan, phase II. Scare 10 million law-abiding citizens into buying everything associated with semi-automatic guns, starting with the AR-15 platform. The gun industry has a heck of a business right now, they can’t even supply enough goods for the demand. And by the way, thanks to everyone who is trying to profit off the Sandy Hook shootings and political climate with all the price gouging.

    The terms “gun violence” and “assault weapon” are oxymorons designed by gun ban proponents to villify guns. Why don’t they use the accurate term “semi-automatic guns”? Clearly because that does not portray the “evil gun” that they want to take away from the law-abiding citizen. Guns are not violent, humans are violent. Weapons do not assault, humans assault.

    The government banned alcohol during prohibition, illegal drugs are banned. We all know how well that works. How stupid can we be when we don’t learn from US history? (Apparantly this stupidity reaches all the way up to our leadership.) All a gun ban will do is allow non law-abiding citizens (aka criminals) to develop an edge over the law abiding citizens, and create a profitable and non-taxable, black market for guns.

    The AR-15 is an American iconic symbol of freedom. Manufactured in the US for close to 60 years, this is certainly not a piece of junk. Accuracy of this gun is impressive, and with the modular design, various uppers can be installed to make this a personal defense weapon (for civilians, law enforcement, and military), a hunting rifle, and a favorite for DCM match rifle competitions. So the next time a politician says “I don’t know what you could use this type of gun for”, just remember he/she is revealing their lack of knowledge of the sport of shooting. Banning semi-automatic guns will cause the loss of US jobs!!! There are so few products left that are made in the USA. Current laws require that the AR-15′s are made in the USA.

    Comment by Peter — February 2, 2013 @ 9:23 am

87. 

    I really hope i am looking at this wrong , but going to the link provided,even though it says “Personal Defense Weapon” , from the reading it looks like they are talking about Millitary spec,s.
    Someone please tell me i’m wrong.

    Comment by Pat — February 2, 2013 @ 9:24 am

88. 

    I will yield on the argument of what is suitable, for so many here have already stated what is truly suitable, any firearm… Select fire, semi automatic or otherwise. But what is the more pressing question, is… what are you prepared to do to preserve our rights? Will we all band together, deny their treason and just say no? And when they overstep their bounds yet again and truly reveal the lengths to which they will go to further their agenda… will you join those of us who hold the oaths we swore as Military and Law Enforcement members, and ensure the common defense of our constitution? The time to make the decision is at hand. We may hope that our would be oppressors will listen to reason, but we must be mentally prepared, physically capable and equipped to ensure that this nation shall not be dissolved.

    Comment by DirtDiver — February 2, 2013 @ 9:27 am

89. 

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. We need to get rid of politicians who go to Washington and try to run our lives, period. These progressive morons tell us what kind of light bulbs we must use, how fast we may drive, what weapons we may use, and dictate millions of other edicts through their laws and regulations.

    I don’t care if a State limits their citizens’ right to protect themselves or anything else, because I will choose not to live in that State.

    Comment by Jim Anderson — February 2, 2013 @ 9:38 am

90. 

    Feinstein, Polosi and the rest of the California crowd seeking to impose their anti-weapon rhetoric on the rest of the Country need to be removed from office by WE THE PEOPLE using the same method they gained power…the right to vote! These elite types can not balance the budget in their own state or handle immigration issues in California. They need to shut that hole under their nose and concentrate on California. Mr. Obama and his puppet hatchetman potty mouth associate Mr. Biden will not rest until our freedom is erroded and WE THE PEOPLE have no personal rights, a national gun registry is enacted and universal background checks are fluorishing. Knowledge IS power! When does it end? What is next? DNA collection? Contact your Senator and Congressmen. Tell them if they support these anti-gun ownership proposals or the univercal background checks/national gun registry, their political career is over come next election. Contact The White House and remind Goober and Gomer that they represent you, WE THE PEOPLE, and self-serving personal agendas are not in keeping with a free society and that you do not support the universal background checks, a national gun registry or any restriction on your ability as a Citizen to own the type of weapon platform you desire. If you wait on the other guy to do it, you WILL lose your rights because the other guy is waiting on you to do the same. In reality, neither of you does it and their agenda passes. I wisj you, WE THE PEOPLE, safety and prosperity. I wish our beloved Country longevity!

    Comment by RPK — February 2, 2013 @ 9:50 am

91. 

    Is Feinstein’s proposed gun ban really a guilt trip that is affecting all of us? Question: Why are liberals so obsessed with gun control? Gun violence occurs every day in this country. Nothing is said. The Chicago gun murder rate (500+ in 2012) is the highest in the nation. Nothing is said.
    When 20 young children are shot to death in Newtown Connecticut, the liberal politicians and the mainstream media have a fit. They demand an end to all guns, and a curtailment of our second amendment rights, why?
    Is the Mainstream media’s(Liberal Democrat) Anti-Gun obsession a result of the guilt that they feel from the thousands of infant deaths caused by their blind belief in abortion.?

    Comment by Dan C — February 2, 2013 @ 9:54 am

92. 

    Why do these incompetent public officials has to dictate and force us to accept their absurd ideas on how to defend ourselves.

    Comment by Damon — February 2, 2013 @ 9:57 am

93. 

    Come and take it!!!!

    Comment by Piss off — February 2, 2013 @ 10:01 am

94. 

    Feinstein started with her Handguns Control, Inc., later renamed “Save the Children” or some cutesy name , but her agenda has always been the complete eradication of the 2nd amendment. Defeating her would be easier if Barack Obama were IMPEACHED! He has violated our constitution and bill of rights numerous times, it’s making Nixon look like a boyscout! Impeach Obama, stop those that want to destroy our constitution and bill of rights and get to the root of the problem-CRIMINALS….They don’t obey laws so enforce them harshly and do away with plea bargaining! Commit a crime and have a gun that is discharged at someone, Life on a desert island, kill someone and take a no appeals tripstraight to old sparky!!!!! Grow a pair, America and take our country back from an out of control government!

    Comment by Mike — February 2, 2013 @ 10:08 am

95. 

    Look it is the laws the government is making. The second Amendment is for this type of government. It was wrote for Americans to over throw the government. The government is scared that Americans will exercise there right and get the idiots out of office and start over. Just read the Constitution word for word and you will see the brave men of America back then saw that this day would come. This is what I see when I see these type of actions. There are over 2400 laws on the books right now that are gun laws. If you want to stop this don’t send people to jail kill them in public and get rid of death row and stop wanting me to pay more taxes for there meals and education.

    Comment by Troy Dollar — February 2, 2013 @ 10:12 am

96. 

    This entire mess sickens me!! our government hasn’t made an intelligent decision in as long as I can recall state or federal they need to back off.Eventually they will enrage their own citizens to a point of no return.They have destroyed our economy,their making great strides toward doing the same with health care as well, so hey let’s go ahead and royally f— up something else GOOD IDEA!!**?!!! I LIVE IN LIBERAL MASSACHUSETTS WHERE WE WILL SEE IT ALL HAPPEN FOR SURE,WAIT THIS IS WHERE MOST GUN MANUFACTURING IN THE US ORIGINATED YOU’D NEVER NO IT. WHAT THE HELL GO AHEAD TAKE OUR GUNS.ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WATCH VIOLENT CRIMES RISE,REMOVE A CRIMINALS FEAR OF OPPOSITION, BECAUSE I’M SURE THE POLICE WILL RESPOND IN TIME TO SAVE US ALL YEAH RIGHT!! AND TO THOSE WHO RELY ON GUNS NOT WEAPONS TO FEED YOUR SELVES AND YOUR FAMILIES TOUGH S— THE GOVERNMENT WILL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU STARVE!!! THEY WON’T HELP YOU WE’RE TO BUSY HELPING OTHER POOR NATIONS WITH BORROWED FUNDS. IF WE HOPE TO SURVIVE WE MUST TAKE A FIRM STAND FOR OUR SELVES BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT HAS GOT IT’S HEAD SO FAR UP THERE IT AIN’T EVEN FUNNY GOOD LUCK TO ALL AND GOD SPEED TO THE FUTURE UNITED STATES OF CHINA

    Comment by Jeffrey Prada — February 2, 2013 @ 10:12 am

97. 

    My View: Just to see, and hear Commrade Feinstein; constitute an “assualt weapon” in my book! Anything in a list from “a-z” can be utilized as a weapon, if the intent is to assualt or render harm to someone, or thing. What this country should have banned, is the re-election of the current administration of “Dem-ol’-cats” who pounced so proudly on the events of a tragedy; to promote their own personal and/or political agendas. Support and defend the constitution of the United States, against all enemies, both Foreign and Domestic!

    Comment by Al'sStand — February 2, 2013 @ 10:13 am

98. 

    I love how the media has not (at least I haven’t seen) mentioned the number of American companies this bill would put out of business, talk about jobless . This ban is completely ridiculous the standard capacity keyword standard has been above 10 rounds on most rifles and pistols for what 50 years, and now shotguns are going beyond that too. This ban doesn’t seem to take reality into account, i think that if it somehow gets past it could lead to a second civil war. The house and the Senate need to leave us alone because they are not prepared for our reaction to having our rights stripped away.

    Comment by adam — February 2, 2013 @ 10:16 am

99. 

    I noted that at least one person related that the Mini-14 would not be included in the ban, and I too had the same thoughts. But when actually reading the entire duggested Ban the Mini-14 was specifically included in the document. If these 535 losers in Washington suceed in passing this document we will have lost our rights to bear arms as they are coming to take them away. The only ones they will not get are the firearms the criminals have.

    Comment by Randy — February 2, 2013 @ 10:21 am

100. 

     “Life should never by at the whim of others. Liberty should never be dictated by the fear of madmen, as madmen should be dictated by the fear of those who are free. The pursuit of happiness should never be limited to necessity.” – Me

     Comment by Jaredin — February 2, 2013 @ 10:23 am

101. 

     FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!!!1 One bullet at a time.

     Comment by giterdone — February 2, 2013 @ 10:23 am

102. 

     A PDW should be what a person is comfortable with handling and has had some training and experience using. The use of a PDW really depends on the situation. If you’re in your home, a larger calibur pistol, like my Glock .45 calibur, would be my first choice simply because of it’s stopping ability in a close range combat situation. My second choice would be my 12 guage Mossberg 500. If I’m in my car and a fool wants to try to jack my car then once again my .45 calibur would be my weapon of choice. Neither of these situations would be practical for an “assualt style” AR-15. I use the term “assualt style” because even though they have the appearence of a military assualt rifle that is not what the public can own. Feinstein and her supporters, like all politicians, have put a spin on what a privately owned semi automatic weapon really is in order to drum up support and pursuade public opinion to ban our PDW’s. I own an AR assult style weapon along with many 30 round magazines, a vest to hold 8 of the 30 round mags and I’ve stocked up on extra ammo because it’s my second ammendment right to protect my freedom from an oppressive or marxist government or in the event of some form of natural or man-made disaster and the public becomes an unruly mob. All this talk about banning what Feinstein calls assult weapons is another attempt for the government to chip away, a little at a time, at our constitutional rights and suppress our freedom in order to control the population. This was done by people such as Hitler and in countries like China to control the population. Our current leader Mr. Obama and his political associates are leading us like sheep to the slaughter to a marxist government and it may already be too late to do anything about it. Banning our PDW’s is one step in the process but not the only change that has stealthly been going on right under the people noses and the majority of the public don’t even know or in some cases don’t give a rats ass. As for myself, I believe too many of our soilders have become fallen hero’s to protect our freedom from those who wish to destroy our country and I am not going to let their sacrifice go in vain.

     Comment by Boogerdaddy — February 2, 2013 @ 10:24 am

103. 

     I would like someone to expand on the role of police and others who are tasked to defend the population. To make this a more widely talked about subject in the media would hopefully wake others up to the cause. At best there is 1 officer for every 400 people to protect and serve. Without the ability to actively defend yourself with the required weapons places all of us in danger. With fast and furious our government purchased firearms and turned them over to criminals who in turn killed many innocent people. Personally I worry about the home invader intent on hurting me or my family but I am equally concerned about the ability to resist a government that could eventually enslave its own population like so many others have.

     Comment by Robert cole — February 2, 2013 @ 10:25 am

104. 

     I think the people of the United States should be able to own any firearm the military/police use. The fact that they are controlled by the government nowadays should make you put your thinking cap on. If the government tries to “take over” we should be able to have the same weaponry as the ones we are “fighting”. Assault rifles are just as deadly as gramps old hunting rifle, but the difference is that mod raised around old gramp are raised differently and know better than to go shooting up people.

     Comment by Deedubya — February 2, 2013 @ 10:29 am

105. 

     If you do not believe it is your responsibility to be prepared to protect yourself because the police are only a phone call away, then I humbly suggest you not bother having any fire extinguishers in your house either as the fire department is also just a phone call away.

     Comment by Aardvark — February 2, 2013 @ 10:30 am

106. 

     If this ban fully goes through I feel there will b a civil war ! The second amendment states we have the right to bare arms so why can’t we choose what to have ?! Why is there restrictions on things we pay for with our earned money that they tax on b4 we even see it ?! Why don’t they focus on gangs and drugs with illegal drugs and weapons with no paperwork ? We own our weapons out right with papers on them we did everything 100% legal to their terms now all of a sudden we “the normal ppl” get punished bc others use these weapons for bad! I don’t see that fair at all! And honestly by reducing the round capacity is going to stop ppl from using weapons for bad ? It dosent matter 10 or 30 rounds if u want to kill ppl it will happen I mean come on 1 bullet will kill who are they kidding ?! Cars kill ppl, drugs kill ppl, fires kill ppl, those are fast ex I could go on and on im just trying to say there’s much bigger things to worry about n focus on than guns they should be working on bringing our US troops back home with their families ! They should be working on creating jobs for US ppl and getting us out of this depression… I kno I rattled on about a few diff things but thats how I feel and not enough ppl are standing up for this …..
     Guns are a tool and if misused will kill along with many other things …..
     Guns shoot bullets-people shoot people guns aren’t the problem ….

     Take care of ur selves and others
     Sincerely Johnny Kraze

     Comment by Johnny — February 2, 2013 @ 10:33 am

107. 

     The Supreme Court case, D.C. vs Heller, said that “blanket prohibitions on entire categories of guns, such as handguns, that could be used for lawful purposes (self defense)were not constitutional.” This should also apply to AR 15′s, since they are much better tools for self defense.

     Comment by Nick — February 2, 2013 @ 10:34 am

108. 

     WOW, politicians really know how too muck things up. the news media backs the anti-gunners too. I really think that if we lived in 1776 they would try to ban the brown bess musket. It was the assault weapon of the day. Law abiding citizens are not the problem and there are laws on the books to keep crazy people from owning guns. Passing laws dont do anything but hurt the honest citizens of are fair country. Cops are only good after the fact a crime has been committed. We have to be able to protect ourselves, if in our house with a .45 auto or on our property with an AR15 or AK47. I like the governments PDW requirements. Thomas Jefferson and George Washington would both be ashamed of our anti-gun political heroes and hang them for treason.

     Comment by Crazy8 — February 2, 2013 @ 10:38 am

109. 

     legislation like this proposed will only make more responsible people criminals. Most will not turn in or register but will just hide them. That will make law abiding people criminals. Such a shame that our law makers are trying to punish law abiding people with stupid ideas like this. Fire any politician that votes for anything like this, as we all know, laws like this proposed will not help one little bit.
     If you don’t vote, get off the couch and do so. If you vote out all these freak politicians maybe we can
     retain the constitutional rights we have had for so long.

     Comment by Boyd — February 2, 2013 @ 10:50 am

110. 

     This is only the first step to their ultimate ploy of total confiscation. We just simply can’t let Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, and their bands of liberal thugs get away with such thievery. Control and money = POWER. That’s exactly where they’re headed. DO NOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT! Be very proactive, get involved, write and call your representatives, both State and Federal. We can’t let them pass any additional laws…they don’t enforce the 22,000 some odd laws on the books now. Do not let them get a “toe hold.” It will mean the beginning of the end. Their theory of confiscating and dis-allowing certain weapons will lead to other things. I suppose if their theory of banning certain items that in their view do not comport to the Second Amendment, then we can expect an attack on the First Amendment next, by banning certain things such as computers, News Media, (in some cases might be a good idea), and other forms of newsworthy communication methods. STAND UP AND FIGHT NOW!

     Comment by Jim H — February 2, 2013 @ 10:58 am

111. 

     Lets look at Chicago, they have the strictest gun laws in the country. They don’t have gun stores even if someone wanted to legally buy a gun with a background check, yet they have the highest murder rate in the nation. Why, because only the criminals have the weapons and find easy prey in a defenseless population. This is a good example of the need for people to have access to a PDW. I guarantee if the law abiding citizens were allowed to arm themselves with a PDW the murder rate would drop in Chicago.

     Comment by Rick — February 2, 2013 @ 11:01 am

112. 

     To even consider thinking that the design of the weapon itself, had anything to do with the recent tragedies is ignorant. The sad simple fact is that the recent shooting in Connecticut could have been comitted with a Colt Single Action Army and a Henry Lever Action repeating rifle. State of the art 1890′s. For the most part these horrible acts are being comitted by individuals that did not legally purchase the firearms used, and that had known mental instability that was ignored by everyone they knew. How often to we hear after the fact, from a family, a friend, clase mates that they seen signs of trouble and either didn’t take it seriously or ignored it? I am sick an tired of seeing the media work for the presidents agenda. Obama did one hell of a job in Chicago. Chicago has some of the strictest gun legaslation on the books, how are they doing right now? It is a sad time in America. Being a proud father of two of the most adorable severally disabled boys, I have watched this government strip so many critical programs, just to give the money to people that will not help themselves. All for the purpose of re-election. Taking away my other passion is just wrong. The proposed legislation has absolutely zero chance of doing anything but making law abiding citizens unable to protect themselves and will give criminals an easy target.

     Comment by John Eldredge — February 2, 2013 @ 11:08 am

113. 

     Most of the comments posted here are valid, however, the sinister part of this has not been addressed. The Liberal side of this country want to ban ALL guns and revise or alter significantly the 2nd Amendment. By entering absolutely crazy “bills” demanding everything, they then will humbly accept HALF of what they demand. Remember the parable about the camel getting his nose under the tent? In a short time, the camel will be totally under the tent. Obama did this with the Healthcare bill. Now you have to realize that ALL of the Articles in the Constitution are intertwined, and if you alter one, you almost certainly will alter others. While it’s my own personal opinion, I truly believe the current administration wishes to “significantly change the USA”. If you look back over the past 4 years, you will see multiple attempts at “kneejerk” reactions to any singular tragedy. All I can say is, be as vocal as you can be, and do not let anyone attempt to take your guns. If you do, we will become a nation of slaves. Remember, this country earned it’s independence by the use of guns. The Founding Fathers KNEW that the same situation may happen again, and specifically created the 2nd Amendment to thwart the rise of any tyranical government (including ours).

     Comment by Barry Karant — February 2, 2013 @ 11:09 am

114. 

     As a police officer in a large city I was approached by a man who felt compelled to come up to me and start a debate. Out of the blue this guy tells me ” I dont believe in guns”. Seeing the direction this was going and deciding to take a preemptive jab. I respond by pointing to my sidearm and say “really? Here’s one,,,,, they’re real”. He then clarifies his statement and proceeds to tell me that he doesn’t believe people should own them. To keep this story short. I’ll save you all the liberal garbage that rolled out of his mouth. I ended the conversation by asking him a simple question. “What makes you feel safe from the criminals looming to capitalize on you and your property”? He says “You guys do….. the police”. Oh you poor misguided sheep. I proceed to tell him that we can only protect in a couple ways. Patrolling and being in the right place at the right time to thwart a crime, getting called to a house and assuming we can get there in time. Everything else we do is pretty much after the crime has occurred. I then proceeded to explain that criminals are not concerned with consequences of breaking the law, hense the law breaking scumbags they are and they darn sure aren’t scared of the police. What they are worried about is getting shot by a home owner. Add to this that they generally don’t know what homeowner is packing and will dispatch them to whatever god they believe in without a second thought. This is the true deterrent of random crimes against homeowners. So. I ended my conversation with Mr. Liberal by telling him he owes all the gun toting conservatives a debt of graditude for keeping keeping him safe at night because the scumbags are afraid you may be one of those gun “believing” people. In summary. Any gun you can shoot and handle safely when needed is the right gun because you are responsible for protecting your family and throwing rocks won’t work. By the way. I haven’t had one cop who thinks going after guns is the answer. Enforce existing laws and get these mental patients of the streets.

     Comment by Steve — February 2, 2013 @ 11:10 am

115. 

     All of the comments have valid points, however until AMERICANS get organized beyond supporting the NRA and other 2nd admendment rights organizations, So far all the emails whining and sniviling aren’t getting anything done, talk to your friends and find out which ones you can count on, the biggest supporters of gun bans are past and present are Stalin, Adolf Hitler , Osama Bin Ladin, Barrack Obama, and the idiots that are sitting in Washington DC, You don’t have the right to whine and snivel about them if you voted for them, those who did need to have a glass window installed about navel high so that they can see out, Those of you that can read( it would suprise the politicians to know that some gun owners can do that) You need to get your hands on copies of a book series called Out of the Ashes by William W. Johnstone, basically commen sense and education, remember politicians have all the answers, however they have no clue what the question is

     Comment by Jim Kane — February 2, 2013 @ 11:33 am

116. 

     The Second Amendment is not about hunting or even personal defense, it is about the People being armed in the event that the government loses it’s legitimate right to govern. In such a case the People have the legitimate right to cast off their oppressors and form a new government. The Founding Fathers did not create a second-class of firearms that the People were allowed to own. Read the Amendment and you will not find that language. So when liberals say “Do you really think the framers of the constitution meant for you to own a semi-automatic rifle?” (while looking at you with that arrogant smirk like your some kind of nut) I say yes, they did! Not literally of course because such firearms did not exist at the time, but the People were free to own the latest and best firearms available at that particular time in history. So if the Armed Forces had a certain type of weapon the people were allowed to own that type of weapon as well.

     Now we are not advocating that we should be allowed to own M16′s and hand grenades, but an AR-15 or equivalent should certainly be legal to own. The People would be hard-pressed to defeat the federally controlled U.S. Armed Forces with today’s semi-automatic rifles, let alone shotguns and hunting rifles. Are we getting ready to try to overthrow today’s federal government? Of course not! As much as many of us are disgusted with our federal government I don’t see Obama, Pelosi and Feinstein as much of a threat to our liberty. But what will our federal or state governments look like in 100 years? or 500 or 1,000 years from now? Who will be in power and how will they govern? Study political philosphy my friends for you will find that long ago the great political theorists who influenced our Founding Fathers had this to say about the Natural tendancies of human beings: People who come into power will always seek to expand their power, influence and control over the governed. It is a natural human tendency that cannot be eliminated from the human personality. Power corrupts and humans are naturally evil. They want what their brother has. That’s why the Founding Fathers set up our system of checks and balances and created the Second Amendment, which is a safeguard in the event that the other constitutional limitations on the governors fails.

     We must protect the Second Amendment for future generations of Americans who are not yet born!!!

     Comment by Jeffrey — February 2, 2013 @ 11:34 am

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     This is all political retheric used for the political gains of a few….. YOU CAN NOT CHANGE THE US CONSTITUTION ONLY ADD AMENDMENTS. THE AMENDMENT CAN NOT CANCEL OUT THE ORIGINAL US CONSTITUTION. THE IS THE USA NOT SOME COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP!!!!!!!!

     Comment by RICH — February 2, 2013 @ 11:42 am

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     Early in WW II, Admiral Yamamoto was questioned about the possiblility of invading mainland America. To paraphrase the Admiral, he said that to try to invade America would be futile, because you would find a gun behind every blade of grass. He was a military mastermind. There are other enemies in our time, who realize the same thing. That fear keeps them at bay, at least as far as an invasion is concerned.

     The 2nd Amendment very simply says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Well, it has been infringed aleady over recent decades, but we have lived with them. The anti-gun lobby will never be satisfied until we the people, are disarmed completely. We cannot allow that to happen. No more anti-gun laws….period. Enforce criminal laws and do a beter job of identifying and dealing with the mentally ill..

     I live in a very safe senior citizen enclave and do not fear my neighbors. I am however, concerned about the possiblity of riots that would slop over into my neighborhood. We have seen what happens during riots in our Country and we need to be ready to protect ourselves and loved ones if that kind of social upheaval should occur again. Our Nation is on the verge of implosion, socially and economically. Riots could easily become a reality in nearly every urban area of the U.S.

     As we all know, there are no safe havens in our country anymore. An active shooter, a crazy person intent on killing their family, a gang banger shooting up the streets at any target, are all possibilities today. Anyone who wishes to, should train and be armed and ready for such a terrible confrontation. We live in crazy times.

     The politicians trying to infringe on our 2nd Amendment Rights have an agenda. Control of the population. More laws of nearly any kind, result in more control over us by government, many in the name of “safety,” or “for the children.” Don’t be mislead. Control is the name of the game and the Ultra Liberals in our society and government see that their goals may finally be within their reach. Let it not be so. Don’t tread on me.

     I would caution all of you to be a bit more secretive about the kinds of firearms you possess, on blogs such as this. That information could come home to bite you at some time in the future, given the capabilities of computer wizards to backtrack posts.

     As far as the topic of this article is concerned, may you all have whatever weapon you feel most comfortable with, at the ready, at home and in public.

     Comment by OneOldCop — February 2, 2013 @ 11:46 am

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     THIS IS WHAT GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THE 13 COLONIES AND OUR FOREFATHERS FOUGHT FOR WHEN WE WERE FIGHTING THE BRITISH FOR OUR FREEDOM FROM TYRRANNY. THE POLITICIANS OF TODAY NEED TO REMOVE THEIR HEADS FROM THEIR ASSES AND REALIZE THAT “FREEDOM ISN’T FREE”…

     Comment by RICH — February 2, 2013 @ 11:46 am

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     Almost all gun crime is done by Democrats. No wonder they want to disarm the rest of us.

     Comment by George — February 2, 2013 @ 11:57 am

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     When the government stops issuing and possessing firearms. Than it is only fair that I give up all “my firearms”. After that happens everyone can start doing Yoga. That way grabbing your ankles, won’t be so difficult.

     Comment by Kai Itani — February 2, 2013 @ 12:05 pm

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     Only the Lord knows how many Japs and Germans were taken with the M-1 and the Garand whilst they were trying to cycle their bolt actions . Americans must not suffer themselfs to be registered,(without historical exception registration always ends with confiscation) neither should they under any circumstance give up their large capacity Semis . The closer parity of arms the people have to real or potential tyrants and their agents, the better will be the peoples prospects for both maintaining Liberty and preventing tyranny . Not to mention Red China favors the disarming of the American people . One can only surmise that it is for the reason that Admiral Yamamoto stated about there being a rifle behind every blade of grass. (reasons not to invade Americas west coast )

     Comment by Long Ben — February 2, 2013 @ 12:14 pm

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     I recently learned of a law written in 1902 referred to as; The Dick Act of 1902,(located in the Library of Congress)it states that no alteration,modification or elimination of the Second Ammendment can be done by the President,Congress,or foreign bodies,i.e. The United Nations That there are three form of Militias organized(National Guard), unorganized all able body men 18 years and above and the U.S. Army that said Militias can be armed with the weapons of the current time and that Gun Control is strictly Forbidden.

     Comment by Bill — February 2, 2013 @ 12:15 pm

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     I believe a Personal defense weapon could be any weapon from something as simple as a pencil to something as sophisticated as an air to ground missile laden unmanned aircraft or a tank. It is in the peoples’ best interest to be guaranteed the right to the same arms as their government has, anything less ends in tyranny. Having first hand knowledge of this the founders of this country wisely wrote the second amendment as they did; “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” There are and have always been those who have had tyranny in their best interests who will try to deceive us into laying down our arms with talk of public safety, national security and necessity. Do not be fooled brothers and sisters, hold your arms proudly, you may need them. If just one or two victims of each these mass shootings not been so complacent, but instead had been armed and vigilant these shootings would not have been mass at all.

     Comment by evan oshel — February 2, 2013 @ 12:16 pm

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     BRAKE. Muzzle BRAKE. As in something that slows down the rearward movement of the rifle (You know, like a Brake) and is mounted to the muzzle.

     I know, I’m being pedantic, but there is no such thing as a “Muzzle Break”. Use the right word.

     Comment by Michael — February 2, 2013 @ 12:17 pm

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     How long have drugs been illegal for? Are they still a huge problem for this country? Do the criminals listen to those laws and not smuggle them in? The normal law abiding citizen is the only one who will listen to the laws and they are NOT the threat!

     Comment by Pat — February 2, 2013 @ 12:20 pm

127. 

     Some how we need to join together to stop this attack on our Constitution. The military, Federal agents, and even Administration Officials all SWORE AN OATH to support and DEFEND the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and Domestic! This is an attack on the Constitution, All those who have served in the military or with a Federal agency need to join the rest of us to exert pressure and peacefully resist this attack. IsWho is going to be our George Washington? Our Sam Adams? Our Thomas Paine? We need to organize to put together a way for anyone who wants to stop the insanity in D.C. &I in tbe media to stop.

     Comment by Jeff Morrison — February 2, 2013 @ 12:25 pm

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     The liberal are the ones that need to be treated for their mental health inadequacy by a mental health medical personnel. How stupid was the governor and legislators of New York state to pass such a law limiting gun magazine capacity to 7 rounds. Unless your are a sharpeshot, your ass is in trouble if 3 or 4 criminals break into your home and your handgun is limited to 7 rounds. It would be tough if your gun magazine capacity was 15 rounds and you were excellent shooter, to kill 2 or 3 invaders.
     I support high capacity magazines, I think you should be able to have 25 to 30 rounds capacity magazines in your handgun.

     Comment by Robert J. Renna — February 2, 2013 @ 12:35 pm

129. 

     Hi Today on Mr Rogers we learned a new word it was IMPEACHED can you say IMPEACHED ?

     Comment by Haboob — February 2, 2013 @ 12:52 pm

130. 

     All the talk and rhetoric and discussions of laws and safeguards for our allegedly protected “rights” (mere ink on paper, which protects nothing) don’t matter. Clearly the actions of our opponents (people who, immorally, wish to deny us the right to life itself by denying us the means to protect our lives) are not driven by reason and logic.

     Look–we are either going to let them take our firearms or we are not!

     Like the NRA slogan says, “Stand and Fight!” Please start by signing the pledge hosted on the OathKeepers website (either with one’s “John Hancock” or anonymously):

     http://oathkeepers.org/oath/pledge/?p=1

     And please get the word out about the webpage. It is there for everyone to sign (not just LE/Mil). The webpage is difficult to find and not widely promoted so it is garnering only a pathetically small number of pledges, but you can imagine the impact it would have if it contained 1 million signatures for members of all three branches of the federal government to see and contemplate! The page should easily be capable of attracting and representing this number of people or more. Don’t just beg your rulers and masters for liberty as their constituents via political processes. “Stand and Fight” and deliver the message above that you intend to do so!

     Comment by Calin Brabandt — February 2, 2013 @ 12:56 pm

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     First of all. AR does not stand for “assault rifle” I would wager less than 1/3 of our lawmakers actually know that AR stands for Armalite Rifle. Armalite was the developer of the platform orginally designed by Eugene Stoner. So…. Even this most basic premise belived by the unimformed and brainwasher voters ( of which their are so many it would scare every informed American voter. ) the civilan versions of this AR platform ae called sporterized versions in that the selector has two positions. Safe & Semiautomatic. Even todays military versions are generally not FULLY automatic but for many years now has had a 3 round burst mode. So, military M4 platforms safe, semi, 3 round burst. Fully auto caused significant muzzle rize effectivly wasting a lot of fired rounds. The 1st generation M16s I had in Vietnam had a fully automatic mode. Not many of those are still around and are Class III weapons which require the same requirements as an FFL dealer to leagally own.
     Hope that clears up some confusion for non gun owners that stumble across these threads. Most of the rest of you propably know this so excuse me for the obvious. The tragady in Sandy Hook is terrible and touched me greatly. I can not imagine to pain running though that community. However, it could have been avoided by the practice of basic gun safety measures. Why would the mother of a mentally ill son that according to news reports had plans to commit her son for treatment leave him access to these weapons? If her concern was that high, all of her weapons should not only have been locked away, but REMOVED from the home. This would have been responsible gun ownership. I realize she was the 1st victim but it could & should have been avoided. Any legal firearms owner who breaches basic gun safety rules should have his or her firearms removed until responsibility is satisfactorily demonstated to the satisfaction of the local sherrif or police dept.
     It would be great if a complete list of senators and representatives by state and district be listed on a central site so that all concerned citizens could let it be known that the 2nd ammendant is absolute as intended by our founding fathers. A lot of these lawmakers are up for reelection in 2013. If they get the message that they must vote according to the people they represent they will get the message or be voted out. WE need to communicate with them. They are elected to serve us, not the other way around. Look up who your local congressional representative and senator is and let them know. Even some of the most liberal lawmakers represent gun loving citizens. Thake Harry Ried for example Nevada, you gotta be kiddin me. Barrage Harry with your wishes and see how he will vote. Remember, ” Government fot the people, BY the people, not the other way around.

     Comment by phil — February 2, 2013 @ 1:17 pm

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     And still, after about 15 years of the driving force of removing certain guns from the hands of the American people,they are relentless and will not give up with the attack on the right of American citizens to bear arms and to redefine the term “Right to Bear Arms”, including what is defined as “assault weapons.” It must be a very important step to accomplish and to make ready the new age for the presentation of the next step of their agenda. I can only wonder what the next step may be but I am most certain that it is more power and control, the very thing our forefathers tried to protect the citizens from happening.
     The second amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms and was created to keep the government in check and from being too powerful as to turn on their own citizens as history has so many times repeated itself, in my opinion.
     At the time the Amendment was signed, citizens had pretty much the same rifles as the British (their enemy) and their own government (not their enemy at the time but controlled by citizens)which evened the playing field a bit, save the cannons.
     In the present day, the government clearly is attempting to gain the advantage over citizens so that in comparison, citizens will have only antique guns, knives, baseball bats and in some geographic areas, pitchforks against fully automatic modern weapons which makes for a very uneven battle given the capabilities of the weapons if a battle or resistance should ever take place.
     It is clear to me that their is an agenda of taking power away from citizens so that new proclamations and laws (perhaps martial law?) can be imposed without any real resistance in comparison if a civil war should break out from the overbearing government rule that may take place in the near future (control of water, food,electrical power, petrol, and medicine/medical services).
     In my opinion, it is “The Big Step” or hurdle that must be accomplished before the next step of their agenda is proposed and that is again, taking more control away from the American citizen to satisfy the governments agenda and that is to do as they see fit.
     They have used tragedies involving guns and have lied and spun the stories to fit their agendas. By the way, in the most recent tragedy at Sandy Hook, they chose to exploit this tragedy, not to lesson any of the tragic elements of Sandy Hook but I find it unnerving that the government lied and said the shooter had an assault weapon “Bushmaster”(I find the use of that term interesting as well)and then plastered the footage of the “long gun” over the air waves as if the assault weapon was the big nasty that was the cause of the attack. Clearly the “long gun” he had in the trunk of his car was a shotgun and not an assault weapon as the media kept displaying on the television screen during the news reporting. Something the untrained eye or uniformed person would believe. A picture of a big black ugly gun can really have an affect on the minds of the people (victims of sensationalism) watching and seeing gun related tragedies on television.
     My thoughts and prayers go out to all the victims of that tragedy and I will not attempt to use this tragedy to make any type of point other than the comparison of truth and lies in regards to “assault weapons” and their use on a large scale which is not the case and is not the “preferred gun of choice” by criminals or deranged persons as criminals and the mentally ill will use everything and anything available to gain their advantage and to accomplish their task at hand.
     Some historians say that civilizations tend to change every 200 years and it appears that our country is in the precipice of change as more and more things are changing that we all once held onto and revered which can have an adverse affect on our present and near future, in terms of being a free nation.

     Comment by Joe — February 2, 2013 @ 1:22 pm

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     The main thing everyone in this debate over gun control seems to be forgetting is that the 2nd amendment is not to insure my right to hunt squirrels or shoot targets at the range. You may not need assault rifles and large capacity magazines for these purposes. The 2nd amendment is in our constitution because a government over time generally gets progressively more oppressive and tyrannical. The 2nd amendment is so I and others like myself have the capability to challenge an over oppressive and tyrannical government. To do that you need assault weapons with clips over 10 rounds. That is what the 2nd amendment is all about.

     Comment by Don — February 2, 2013 @ 1:23 pm

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     The question is, does the govt work for us or are we slaves to the govt? Do we really want to give up a right, I emphasis a right that was defined in our bill or rights as something the govt could not take away. Yet, we stand once again at the pulpit of tyranny like sheep at the slaughter all “for the sake of the children”.

     Short of a cannon, what right is it of someone else to say what I need to defend myself? Does it really matter against whom? Does it matter if I have 1000 rounds or more? Its like someone telling me I can’t have more than 100 hp in my vehicle “because I might exceed the speed limit”. God forbid we hold the individuals responsible, it must be the weapon.

     I ask everyone to truely consider what the govt is trying to take from us. I should think the laws that New York and Vermont (more restrictive than Oboma’s plan) are a good indication of where current govts are willing to go. I for one do not indtend to wake up and find my weapon is gone, along with my freedom.

     Laugh if you will, all I ask is look at history lest we be doomed to repeat it.

     Comment by Ken Common — February 2, 2013 @ 1:26 pm

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     Armed we are citizens. Unarmed we are subjects. Don’t let the government make us all sheep. Arm up and protect what you have earned by any means necessary. Criminals have in the past and will continue in the future to get the weapons that they want. Don’t make us sitting ducks to the terror of the mentally ill and heartless people society has created. The government included.

     Comment by Marshall Comstock — February 2, 2013 @ 1:27 pm

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     As a California resident with first-hand knowledge,I believe Feinstein’s Assault Weapons Bill should be taken in the context of her entire anti-gun agenda and not simply her desire to ban only assault weapons. Feinstein’s ultimate goal is to deprive private citizens of the right to own firearms, a.k.a. ANY firearms. She is simply concentrating on so-called “assault weapons” due to the fact that they are an easier target than handguns. However, God forbid, but if her bill passes we all know murders will continue in locations such as Chicago where they are committed with handguns many times more than with “assault weapons”. At that point, Feinstein and Schumer will point their fingers at handguns and attempt to “evilize” them thereby requiring a ban on them as well. Remember,her ultimate goal is a ban on ALL firearms. Therefore, if her Assault Weapons Bill of 2013 is stopped she will be rendered irrelevant regarding further gun control.

     Comment by Steve Smith — February 2, 2013 @ 1:36 pm

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     The Supreme Court ruled the 2nd Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL right because it’s for the defense of the people against the Government! The antis need to grasp this fact!

     Comment by Allen — February 2, 2013 @ 1:43 pm

138. 

     Stand up,stand together,vote and take our country back. God Bless America!!!

     Comment by Jim — February 2, 2013 @ 1:51 pm

139. 

     Why are you people entertaining that dizzy BITCH? Her Bill being introduced to congress is illegal. It is unconstitutional. What part of “Shall Not Be Infringed”
     don’t the American people understand? Anyone that tramples on the constitution like
     these people are trying to do needs to be arrested and tried for Treason! We need
     some law enforcement that has some balls instead of going along with the morons. If
     none of you have the guts just call on a few good men and we will get it done! When
     you are all ready to take back your country let me know!!!
     Sincerely

     Comment by Jerry Brock — February 2, 2013 @ 2:08 pm

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     Personal defense – .45 ACP m1911 Rock Island concealed carry
     Home defense – .45 Para Ord M13 (10 rd mags w 3 spares) Beretta 12 GA Semi auto shotgun and Federal ordinace M14 SA in .308.
     That is just the ones on the ready line.

     Comment by GERRY — February 2, 2013 @ 2:13 pm

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     To Kory Miller (February 2, 2013):
     Kory, you’re the first person I have read, heard, or run into who knows, as I do, that Feinstein carries concealed — and has since Dan White. (Anyone remember the “Twinkie Defense”?) Question — what does she carry, a revolver or a semi-auto pistol? Feinstein is another hypocritical, elitist big shot. The laws which govern, or which they wish governed, the common man, do not apply to them. Political party or philosophy has little or nothing to do with that attitude.

     Comment by JIM WILLIS — February 2, 2013 @ 2:14 pm

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     Anyone who has fired one knows the AR15 is an excellent personal defense weapon. They are easy to aim, easy to control, and extremely effective.

     No one with any real integrity can say they support both the second amendment and these new gun restrictions.

     To ensure that even those of us who already own firearms can’t really use them, ammunition will be targeted.

     People are saying it can’t happen, but it already has happened in NY. It can and will happen if we aren’t working together to stop it.

     “So this is how liberty dies… with thunderous applause.”

     Comment by JamesM — February 2, 2013 @ 2:20 pm

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     A personal defense weapon for my use is anything I can imagine. In the hands of a responsible individual, any weapon is acceptable because a responsible individual will not abuse a weapon. A responsible individual will only use a PDW for personal defense when the threat eminent, potentially life threatening, and there is no other recourse. I like my guns and they are for target shooting, hunting, trading, modifying, and really to appreciate the technology. Oh, yes, personal defense. It is silly to even talk about guns and violence in the same context. That may sound absurd but think about it. Guns are not violent. Violence is not limited to any particular weapon. It is very irritating to hear legislators talking about “gun violence”. They should concentrate on personal violence. It is in the individual not the gun. I feel like I am beating my head against the wall. Arrrrrrggghhhh!

     Comment by James Hathorn — February 2, 2013 @ 2:24 pm

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     What ever we want to have! Fire arms are not the problem it is the criminally insane leaders that is the issue!!

     Comment by BlackBeard — February 2, 2013 @ 2:27 pm

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     By the way, if the federal government should manage to confiscate some firearms, what do you suppose they will do with them? Perhaps they will give them to the Department of Justice to transfer to the drug cartels in Mexico, and other similar groups elsewhere, inasmuch as they already have the experience. I think they should at least charge something for them this time, and, perhaps apply the proceeds to paying a little something on the National Debt? Did I get your attention? Has anyone else noticed that this little pecadillo on the part of the Department responsible for enforcing gun control laws so we can all sleep safe in our beds at night, is no longer of interest to the media?

     Comment by JIM WILLIS — February 2, 2013 @ 2:37 pm

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     Getting ready to build my 2nd PDW, 20″ AR15 semi retro look RIFLE. Already have a carbine that I built.

     I don’t own any “assault” weapons so I’m not sure why I’m worried about this bimbo’s bill for

     I wish the media would get the terminology correct, you’d think that after going to collage to study journalism, they’d be smart but seems the opposite. I also wish the truth would come out about the fact an AR was not even used at Sandy Hook.

     Great article, too bad only smart people can understand it.

     Comment by Eric — February 2, 2013 @ 2:48 pm

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     I am Fed, we aren’t interested in law abiding gun owners! I think there is a side to this no one ever talks about. Do we NEED 30 round magazines? No. Do you need a .50 2mile range sniper rifle that can shoot through heavy material? No. Are ever going to need to speed change magazines to fend off a suicidal neverending fearless mob attacking you? Really, really unlikely. With that in mind, do we need a V12 engine? Or a Corvette or a Viper? No, we don’t. However this is AMERICA, here you can buy these things if you want-yet you are still responsible for your actions. You can’t go running down people with your Viper, nor can you do irresponsible things with your firearms. We have FREEDOM and RESPONSIBILITY, perhaps we are forgetting this most American philosophy.

     Comment by Patrick — February 2, 2013 @ 3:06 pm

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     I SUPPOSE THEN WE SHOULD ALL JUST BUY STOCKS FOR INVESTMENTS,CAUSE IVE A FEW OF THOSE LISTED AOVE AND THERE INVESTMENTS..GUNS DONT GO DOWN IN PRICE IF NOT USED….

     Comment by ben — February 2, 2013 @ 3:06 pm

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     GUNS DONT KILL ..PEOPLE KILL…..ANY BILL PASSED WONT STOP BAD GUYS WITH MONEY FROM ACCESS TOO FIRE ARMS…LOOK AT MEXICO ZETAS..OR HOW OUR OWN GOVERMENT SENT WEAPONS DOWN SOUTH THEN LOST TRACK OF THEM..MMMMMMMM MAYBE THIS IS TOO PROTECT THERE SELVES FROM WHAT EVER THEY REALLY SENT DOWN THERE…..

     Comment by ben — February 2, 2013 @ 3:09 pm

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     I live at the end of a rural road- I called the police because my idiot neighbors idiot son was shooting and it was near my house and I was not sure he was smart enough to aim the other way—-it took 45 bminutes for the police to show up. Certainly time for my family to be robbed and dead! I have a high point 45 carbine and a century 7.62×39 sporter as well as a couple of other intruder surprises. I don’t mind going- ,I just don’t want to go first!There are those afraid of the preppers(like they plan to leave their lairs) and define an assault weapon as pulling the trigger and it shoots-”no one needs an assault weapon” well that is true if the rest of us are willing to put our lives on the line protecting these ostriches!I have guns I have a permit and I have no intention of shooting anyone who doesn’t try to attack me first but I demand the right not to be defenceless. “a man who dies with the sun in his eyes dies a man, a man who dies with dirt in his nose just dies!

     Comment by john cosenza — February 2, 2013 @ 3:55 pm

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     Eric , I understand what you said and I am no college Graduate , but a Friend of mine told me the same thing , and as usual The Media to this day still does not know what they are Talking About ,WE already have thousands of laws on the Books , another friend of mine brought to my attention is How can they go through the new proposals in 45 Minutes .

     I rest my case.

     Comment by Albert Sand — February 2, 2013 @ 4:40 pm

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     Funny how they , the govenment, can arm themselves to the teeth but we citizens should be restricted to what we can have. They did their best to put our sport weapons, the Mini 14 and AR 15 on the assault weapons ban when they are not even close to being an assault weapon. Now they want to ban any semi-automatic weapon. Any weapon ban is unconstitutional and violates the Dick Act of 1902 H.R. 11654 which cannot be repealed and protects our rights to keep and bear arms. How do we remove any and all weapon bans from this administration?

     Comment by Bob Velon — February 2, 2013 @ 4:55 pm

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     @ RICH …. U said this country isn’t turning into a communist country …. I hate to tell u but things are sure pointing that way there constantly making laws on stupid things towns are making 1001 new rules that u can get ticked for there just adding and adding to restrict us yes laws are good but there’s so many diff ones u gotta be careful the way u flush the toilet or you’ll get hit with a fine or something …

     All do respect
     Johnny Kraze

     Comment by Johnny — February 2, 2013 @ 5:03 pm

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     CONTROLLING THE MASSES

     Well, the politicians are running around the countryside again screaming “GUN CONTROL” as they try to talk good people into giving up their guns using stories about bad people as the excuse. Now these politicians, you will notice, are almost completely surrounded by their own special “goon squad”. These special people are not there as friendly greeters like at Walmart. These guys are not paid to smile and say “Good morning, how are the wife and kids“, these guys have guns, big guns and lots of high capacity magazines, something their political pal does not want you to have. They are there so that you, the people who pay their salaries, will be discouraged from asking any embarrassing questions, such as “HEY MR. SENATOR, HOW IS YOUR GIRLFRIEND?”

     I can’t understand why more people are not paying attention to what is really happening with this gun control issue. If you read the statistics, you will soon learn that the states with the least restrictive gun laws have the least amount of crime. Those who framed our Constitution put in the second amendment for a reason. Do yourself a favor! Read and understand the Constitution. This entire thing is not about gun control, it is about people control.

     How soon we forget what Adolph Hitler did and how he achieved his goal of “culling the herd” in three easy steps. Let me refresh your memory:

     1. Hitler registered your guns.
     2. Hitler took your guns. (you were killed if you resisted)
     3. Hitler then took you to an horrific place after loading you into a boxcar.

     Obama instigated “FAST and FURIOUS” to try to make guns look so bad that you would willingly give up your weapons but that backfired big time, so now he is going to try: “GUNS BE GONE!” What will be next, boxcars?

     Every country in the world that has instituted gun control has a higher crime rate than the United States. Murders by guns are statistically lower compared with other weapons. More people are killed by drunk drivers each year than those killed by guns . . . But we don’t see anyone suggesting that we ban automobiles. And if history repeats itself, more gun control is always followed by more people control.

     The difference in the way a crime is committed is the “tool” used and guns of all types are way down on the list! Hammers and blunt instruments kill more people in the U.S. each year than rifles, according to F.B.I. crime records.

     If we Americans don’t wake up, and soon, we will loose our freedom completely!

     Bruce P. Marston
     P.O.Box 1
     Passumpsic, Vt. 05861

     Comment by BRUCE P. MARSTON — February 2, 2013 @ 5:08 pm

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     Did any of you notice the part about barrels that are threaded ? A lot of barrels are threaded so that they can be attached to the receiver. All those rifles would be banned according to this. This would wipe out most semi-auto rifles because they have threaded barrels. Threads are used to attach the barrel to the receiver of a lot of semi -auto rifles. Think of all the guns this would wipe out, not just the military but a lot of the hunting guns such as Browning BARS, Remington 750′s and most carbines. All with the words, “threaded barrels” because it does not say which part of the barrel is threaded. Be glad it didn’t say rifles or guns with the “following”……..because that would wiped out most bolt action rifles as well, and if it said guns that would include a lot of shotguns, just with a word change. Think about it.

     Comment by Ethan — February 2, 2013 @ 6:09 pm

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     I do believe things will come to a ‘head’ durning this current administration concerning our Constitutional rights. We as Americans must get our priorities in order. A will armed militia will probably be the only way to protect our rights if we continue to hope nothing ‘bad’ happens and sit by and do nothing. I do believe many old vets, including myself are still willing to fight for freedom. The 1st revolution was in large part won by a bunch of ‘rag tag men’ called over the mountian boys. They detroyed British leadership then faded by into the woods to fight another day. I also think we could see a revival of states seceeding in order to preserve Americas founding values. I certianly hope things do not escalate to such a level for the blood shed are sorrow would change us forever,but freedom needs to be water ever so often with the blood of tirants and patiots to keep a free country free Bob

     Comment by Bob Roberts — February 2, 2013 @ 6:24 pm

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     The most important thing when trying to stop or subdue a deadly threat, is to BRING ENOUGH GUN! It must have enough power, enough ammunition and enough firing speed to stop the threat that endangers you or your family.
     The right to self defense (AKA self-preservation, or LIFE) is an inherent human right, not one granted by the Constitution. The Constitution just confirms that right, it does not grant it.
     We know that when seconds count, the police will never be able to protect you. You need to do it yourself, and no government edict should interfere with that right.
     I have never been more worried FOR my country or afraid OF my government as I am today.

     Comment by SMFsemperfi66 — February 2, 2013 @ 7:38 pm

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     A personal defense weapon is any weapon a free man deems is the best weapon system suitable for him or her to use for legal self defense period. A free man should also decide the magazine capacity he feels is necessary for any situation. My BEST ALL AROUND self defense is what some might call an assualt weapon. Yes I also have an REM 870 in the house but a shotgun in my opinion is not good for all situatuions. I believe my rifle is good for hunting, sport, and Self defense. As I said before its my best all around,for all situations and at all distances. Tell those people who want to limit magazine capacity to look up The Billings murder that happend July of 2009 In Pensacola Florida. 30 minutes from where I live. Seven men broke into a couple’s house and murdered a husband and wife in there bedroom. They were foster parents to 13 kids and had 4 of there own. You ask the gun takers if they would want an assault rifle and a 30 round mag if they were in that situatation. If they say no they are full of it. Please contact your local government as I have through email or any way you see fit and tell them how you feel.

     Comment by Ricky R. — February 2, 2013 @ 8:00 pm

159. 

     I just read an article that appearantly Governmemt officials, Military (ret. or curr.) and some others are EXEMPT from this ban! WTF?! How about some uniformity across the ranks? What makes retired Senator Bilbo Hodgekis competent to own one of the “dreaded, awful” firearms?? I’m thinking not! Take our guns and see who invades us. The only people laws effect are the law-abiding citizens.

     Comment by Sean Connors — February 2, 2013 @ 8:13 pm

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     I would caution everyone of you whom are all for reporting mental health issues to the government. Please don’t misunderstand me I do not believe for one second any individual who suffers from a mental illness should own a gun at all. However just as the article above is easing your minds with semantics over the governments ‘DEFINITION’ of personal defense weapons which we all know from experience that definitions change and where the government is concerned definitions are usually changed to suit whatever the political agenda is at the time. What ,in the government’s eyes, would constitute a mental illness? Would a bout of depression suffered in ones teen or early adult life constitute a mental illness, or a depression medicine that was prescribed to you 10 years ago used to treat chronic pain because of the side effects that dull your nerves be also considered enough to put you on the list making it illegal for you to posses a firearm? This is a very very slippery slope and from my experience where the government is concerned yours and my best interest is never part of the equation. It is my opinion that due to the attack on the ‘FAMILY’ is why we have these types of events today. For the last 20 years there has been an agenda to dismantle the family and make the parents out to be idiots. For example, How many of you parents have helped your children with their homework and in explaining to your child how the problem is done and how you came to the answer with their response being’ Thats not what my TEACHER SAID. Since when does a child, through no fault of their own, regard their teacher’s word above that of their own parents? I am a retired mechanical, electrical, and computer science engineer and in the subject of math my 9 year old would question me constantly. She no longer does as I have opened her eyes. No the problems we have today are due to the continued attack of the FAMILY through teachings like nothing wrong with having 2 dad’s or 2 mom’s and the fact that they are being taught that their very own parents are relics of the past and the core beliefs of our time is somehow outdated and barbaric. No they problems we face today are the same as we faced 100 or 1000 years ago. A broken home will most certainly yield a broken child. Now you cannot spank your child for fear of jail and the only alternative is to medicate and now we are right back to the mental health issue again.

     Comment by pman — February 2, 2013 @ 8:17 pm

161. 

     additionally, I guess there was an official statement that no assult type weapons were used in Connicut. Only the handguns… Someone should threaten Dianne Feinstein with a pencil… then those would be outlawed too, right??

     Comment by Sean Connors — February 2, 2013 @ 8:18 pm

162. 

     San Diego Sheriff said he would get rid of AR15s within one generation copying Feinstein’s earlier bill that these guns could not be resold, given or inherited. The guns would have to be turned in at the owners death. Without compensation to the relatives who would lose this inheritance. This nothing short of confiscation of your perosnal property. Feinstein also tried to ban pistols giving the same reason for assualt rifles, ” the only reason for pistols is to shoot people not for hunting”. Asked Feinstein said she considered any thing that goes bang is an assualt weapon. Her true agended is to take away all fire arms.

     As for hunting a AR15 in 308 cal. is excellent. You don’t have to worry about scrating the stock, pretty much weather proof and light. Great for hunting and defense. Its like have two guns in one saving money. Anyone who says AR15 are no good for hunting never used one let alone ever shot one.

     Comment by George — February 2, 2013 @ 8:35 pm

163. 

     i have different guns for different reasons,,the most handy at that time is my choice
     for pdw, my assualt rifle is to defend against tyranny and rioting lunatics.right now
     feinstein in my opinion is a power hungry scared little girl,that knows our dollar is
     about to bounce and when it does the citizens will most rightly and certainly blame the
     greedy politicians. number one rule for all police officers is one i go by myself,,,,
     NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE GIVE UP YOUR WEAPON!!!

     Comment by john babcock — February 2, 2013 @ 9:21 pm

164. 

     Dickens: “The Law is a ass”. We have a bevy of braying jackasses starting with Feinstein, and Schmuck Schumer. I WILL NOT comply with this infringement of MY GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS. These pretenders to legitimate legislators are nearing treason. We must take serious action to preserve our Republic. Awaken, electorate, and hold to full account!

     Comment by Dave Nolan — February 2, 2013 @ 10:54 pm

165. 

     In a WROL situation(numerous scenarios are extremely possible)where groups/gangs of looters/thugs are roaming areas/neighborhoods reigning terror on innocents, an AR or equivalent SA rifle is an effective PDW and/or home defense firearm…notwithstanding a healthy SA sidearm or two, CQ shotgun(s), and some H2H fighting blades.

     Comment by Ophelia — February 2, 2013 @ 11:17 pm

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     I have served my Country twice,and hold two Honorable Discharges for proof of that service. I was in the USMC during the Viet Nam conflict, and in the Army National Guard also. Both of those services I was in the Infantry, and I feel like I should be able to Hunt and Shoot with the weapon I choose. Anyone that has served knows how to use a weapon and respect that weapon and the others around him or her. It is as we all know the criminals and sicko people that don’t.And that is what the government needs to focus on. Not taking away the weapons from innocent citizens like me and others that work hard and pay the taxes that keeps the government running. I find it hard to believe what this country would be like with out the rights that our Fore- Fathers provided us in our Constitution.

     Comment by Stephen Milligan — February 2, 2013 @ 11:17 pm

167. 

     I have my assult rifle for target shooting, if she doesn’t believe in that she should go to knobb creek and check it out

     Comment by Paul Ziegenfus — February 2, 2013 @ 11:18 pm

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     just over two years ago i was a victim of a home invasion,held at gunpoint hogged tied and hooded, stabbed, kicked repeatedly in the face and was all set to be executed but through the grace of God these animals were scared off only to be caught 7 minutes later with what they had stolen, $40 all my credit and id and two cell phones and a laptop. They plead guilty and are serving 10 years.I had been stalked and was recovering from surgury at the time so only had the use of one arm during this crime against me..it is now the reason why i will use my right to castle domain…what i have is ample enough for protection…lets just say i feel comfortable with “my little freinds ” in my house and my love ones feel safe too.

     Comment by Miranda Rights — February 2, 2013 @ 11:23 pm

169. 

     @Patrick,

     >I am Fed, we aren’t interested in law abiding gun owners!

     With the stroke of a pen, our masters and rulers can turn law-abiding guns owners into unlawful criminals, regardless of what the Second Amendment protects to the contrary! Once the pen is stuck, you WILL be interested in formerly law-abiding guns owners. Your “interests” hinge not on morality nor on even logic or reason. They swing merely on what ink our masters and rulers put to paper!

     >I think there is a side to this no one ever talks about. Do we NEED 30
     >round magazines? No. Do you need a .50 2mile range sniper rifle that
     >can shoot through heavy material? No. Are ever going to need to speed
     >change magazines to fend off a suicidal neverending fearless mob
     >attacking you? Really, really unlikely.

     It is talked-about. Also, history proves you wrong and you are suffering from a severe case of normalcy bias. Our monetary system alone mathematically guarantees failure. (It requires the exponential growth of debt as new money is loaned into existence, which must be created to cover the interest on all outstanding debt.) But you are obviously unfamiliar with the mathematics and consequences that are implied by our money system and, therefore, not sufficiently knowledgeable to make the risk assessments I make for myself. Lacking humility, like nearly all of our masters and rulers, you obviously think you are qualified. Nearly everything you cited as “not needed” could have proven valuable to many persons protecting their lives and property during Katrina. Now imagine “Katrinas” everywhere! Also imagine the unbelievably well-armed and organized drug cartels in Mexico coming north to “tap new markets” after an economic collapse. I know my government cannot protect me from that them. Thwarting that even will require well-armed people, possessing the items you deem to be “not needed.”

     All government, even our government with the insightful protections created by the Founding Fathers, tends toward tyranny and it must be countered and thwarted by armed people. You have no no crystal ball, statistical authority, and certainly no moral authority to ascertain such things, like what is “needed” or not needed. I believe it is reasonably likely the I or people like myself will one day have critical need for the things your have decided we don’t need. Again, you have no moral authority to make this judgement and send people with guns to disarm us of the very same type of guns.

     >You can’t go running down people with your Viper, nor can you do irresponsible things with your firearms.

     Well, actually you CAN do it, just as easily as you can shoot people with a gun, but it is unlawful. Similarly, you CAN use a few ounces of gasoline and a match, or a machete, or a pipe bomb, or countless other deadly things to commit mass murder, but it is immoral and unlawful and you will likely be punished for doing any of the above.

     Comment by Calin Brabandt — February 2, 2013 @ 11:29 pm

170. 

     Write your Congressman & Senators…
     You don’t think they read these internet sites to you? Let them know how really stupid there attitude toward firearms is. AR-15 is not and assault weapon because it is NOT Fully Automatic. They should pass a law that in order to be president or in congress you must first have served in the military where they would learn about weapons and how to safely use them. But then they would all stay in until retirement because the wages of our wonderful service personnel are so high!
     Dianne Feinstein what a joke did you know that she’s got a concealed carry permit? Or should I say hypocrite and do you have any idea how hard it is to get a concealed permit in “Good Old” California. So now she wants to take all of our semi-automatic weapons so we are really subservient to the government… H*ll they haven’t passed a budget in over 3 years and that is a requirement under the law. But the president and senate don’t have to obey the law do they. How about the 5 armed guards for the New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg with only 7 rounds in their magazines, yah right you don’t really believe they only have 7 rounds do you? By the way the only weapon I know of that uses a “clip” is the M1 Garand (officially designated as United States Rifle, Caliber .30, M1. All other semi-automatic weapons use a “Magazine”, but then all of those hypocrites know that don’t they.
     Please write your congressmen and senators and tell them not to support Feinstein’s proposal, it is the only way we can hope to stop such idiotic legislation from passing.

     Comment by pops_22_250 — February 2, 2013 @ 11:55 pm

171. 

     I find it more than ironic (moronic is a better word) that we are GIVING, free of charge 20 F-16′s 200 Abrams and $1.5 billion to a country with a known terrorist (Muslim Brotherhood) Morsi,whos country in the mist of a civil war – so we don’t even know where this hardware and money will land – YET THIS JERKS IN DC want to disarm law abiding citizens here

     Comment by AllacrossAmerica — February 3, 2013 @ 12:03 am

172. 

     @ all across America im with u 100% and were training them with our skills and soldiers great idea right ?!
     Johnny Kraze

     Comment by Johnny — February 3, 2013 @ 12:28 am

173. 

     Welcome to California my friends from the free states. We here in California live under Feinstein’s world of gun control and it is a failure. Just at the city of Oakland from my great state of California. It seem gun control is not working there. Gun owner’s let’s not kid ourselves the D.C. politicians want to take are firearms and are rights. Lord help us all.

     Comment by Jonathan — February 3, 2013 @ 4:37 am

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     What they fail to admit is that the Pharmaceutical industry is partly responsible because the majority of these shooters are on SRI’s that ” Say ” on the insert that they can cause this type of violent behavior and secondly…The Corporate media has blame also for ” advertising ” schools as ‘ Gun Free ” zones. No one is addressing these issues.
     Why aren’t they banning the SRI’s?…and preventing the media from telling everyone that school children are literally sitting ducks….

     Comment by Carolyn — February 3, 2013 @ 5:47 am

175. 

     1. no to registration. only the law abiding citizen will be registered. if you are a moral person you have no intent to use your weapon illegally. imagine a country where the people with evil intent are not registered or maybe the illegals? the dynamics would change immensely at that point. who would have the guns then? the bad guy and the tyranical government.

     2. sorry this mental health thing has some holes in it. i feel that the entire spectrum is not defined. where would the government stop in its definition. if giving care to a parent with alzheimers or dementia in my home will that inhibit my rights. according to the constitution our rights shall not be infringed upon.

     Comment by stablepar — February 3, 2013 @ 9:49 am

176. 

     Unlikely this post will be read given its late posting date but here goes.

     To the gentleman with the the very long post above that stated that he’s frustrated and doesn’t know were to begin to change this… I feel your desperation.

     One place we should begin is by putting out own house in order. Most people accept the NRA is our best hope of a peaceful political solution, and I am grateful for them. However, I have been dismayed by some really important elements missing in their rhetoric and position. Here’s an example of what I mean:

     I recently received a member survey in the mail from them and question #1 asks what is your primary reason for owning a firearm? With options:
     Hunting,
     Target Shooting,
     Personal Protection,
     Collecting,
     Other

     One very important item is missing here that should be top choice for justifying the 2nd Amendment: ENSURING DEMOCRACY!

     It’s not just there; this line of thinking seems to be missing from most of what I have heard from the NRA in public comments. I know they have a tight line to walk and I am not arguing against the NRA. I am instead calling for this line of reasoning to move to the forefront of their arguments, and we as members and responsible gun owners should be respectfully calling on them to include this more centrally in their platform and talking points. It is the heart and soul the 2nd amendment. Its why its worded the way it is.

     Why do I need hi-cap mags? Why do I need semi-automatic fire? Why do I need ergonomic features that that may provide a slight edge, provided I am well trained, in a fire fight? Why are the moral hazards of allowing regular citizens to own, and become proficient with, weapons that are designed for killing efficiency, really worth the unintended consequences?

     None of these questions can be answered to their fullest if we just focus on hunting, collecting, or target shooting. Even the personal defense against home invasion falls just slightly short of giving a conclusive answer. Only the “ensuring democracy” argument, wherein gun ownership is justified by the need to keep power in the hands of the citizens to guard against tyranny, fully stands up to all these questions.

     So call/write your state and federal representatives. But don’t forget we need to get our own house in order. Sharpen your arguments about the 2nd Amendment and how liberty depends on it. Lean on history and the experience of this nations founders. And we must stop doing and saying things that fall into the stereotyped trap our opponents have laid for us; that we are all uneducated, illogical, extremists. We must stop talking about “how stupid the liberals are” and other divisive tactics because the only people that will listen are the people that already believe our position. Instead we must, keep a cool head and debate this thing on its merit, because it has plenty and its well justified. That doesn’t mean they’ll listen, but at least we’ll be firm in our conviction that we said and did all we could, should we need to make a stand. Look at the essayists of colonial America leading up to the birth of our democracy. It was firm conviction and logical argument founded in the experience of everyday people that won people over and created the popular will to resist.

     And resistance is why I may someday truly need a 30 round mag.

     Comment by Benjamin — February 3, 2013 @ 10:17 am

177. 

     please don’t forget:
     Most gun owners are conservative thinking.
     Most gun owners in a total Feinstein ban would not choose to turn in arms, but rather just hide them.
     Catching these people would eliminate their vote as they would then be criminals, without a voice.
     The socialists would prevail–our country would turn into something horrible.
     For heavens sake–please vote.

     Comment by Boyd — February 3, 2013 @ 11:14 am

178. 

     The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is inalienable. The 2nd amendment was made a part of our Constitution to restrict the ability of the Federal Government to infringe upon that right. People that argue against our right to specific fire arms with statements that they meant only to allow single shot muskets has no weight. Cannon were certainly around at this time. The framers of the Constitution did not put restrictions on the types of arms that we could own.

     I can recall a fairly recent comment on TV by a senator regarding the conflict in Syria, making a statement that the people that are trying to free themselves from that oppressive regime are doing so armed with “only AK-47”s and rocket propelled grenades”. We lost the RPG’s a long time ago. We just can’t let this attack on our Constitutional Rights succeed.

     Comment by John — February 3, 2013 @ 11:16 am

179. 

     SOUNDS LIKE COMMIE SCUM WANTING TO DISARM AMERICA WHILE THEY CONTROL US. HIDE YOUR GUNS BOYS

     Comment by rob — February 3, 2013 @ 11:16 am

180. 

     Why mess with our Constitution! Its worked this long. We have the right to rise up agaist a tyranic government. Take away the tools and we have no power to do so. Obama wants to be a world leader…kill the 2nd Amendment and he’s on his way. Sorry if this offends anyone…just a personal opinion and experience. Thank you for the comment oportunity.

     Comment by MSTSGT JOHN PURIFOY US ARMY (ret) — February 3, 2013 @ 12:24 pm

181. 

     I agree with the concern about the mental health thing. Mental health is the most subjective spectrum of diagnoses. At what point does some government funded study “prove” that people that dissent against government actions are mentally unfit. If that sounds absurd look at world history and the rise of dictators. Manipulation of public opinion through junk science isn’t off limits. I believe this whole focus on mental health is unenforceable, ineffective, a slippery slope, and likely would not have prevented any of the awful massacres gun control proponents are trying to leverage.

     Comment by Benjamin — February 3, 2013 @ 12:37 pm

182. 

     I think everyone needs to be reminded that the Second Amendment is there not to protect our hunting or shooting sports, but to protect us from a tyrannical government. There are people in our government who wish to control most every facet of our lives. This is just another attempt to control us. My beliefs are God, Family and Country and I think we need to unite and support all organizations like the NRA for example and do our part by voting.

     Comment by Ernie — February 3, 2013 @ 12:51 pm

183. 

     Reading this: by definition of what is to be banned it covers far more the Black guns, My muzzle loader is banned (thumb hole stock) same with my cross bow and my gamo pellet gun, Now I’m not real sure but I also think it will outlaw my wrist rocket sling shot. I know for sure the others will be as they have features that are to be banned. Want to talk about stupidly in congress.

     Comment by maddog458 — February 3, 2013 @ 2:36 pm

184. 

     What I want is the time to come when “not one” of our elected officials dares to step outside their Constitutionaly imposed limits.
     Finestein has so damn many times profited, not personally of course. But by helping hubby and his partners becoming millionaires a hundred times over.
     When a few thousand real patriots tried to bring this too light where the hell were the gun owners¿
     Oh that’s right they were mentaly masturbating upon what they would do when the UN Arabs blue hemets and NWO invaded.
     Where have they been hiding as many of us were fighting crooked Senators and corporates slowlypollutted and then stole the patentsto that supply¿
     Why of course behind a bench or in the woods playing soldier and practicing how to eat MRE’s.
     How many fought on the then wrong side of the Drug War and all its abuse to american liberty and called for even strickter laws and penalyys and once again let authority abuse those you and they targeted as unamerican.If you

     Comment by Hide Behind — February 3, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

185. 

     One thing that may have been overlooked in this- Feinstein’s bill explicitly lists weapons that don’t fall under the ban. Does that mean that no new weapons are allowed?? There’s nothing here about a process for adding new ones.

     Another thorn is that when you die, your grandfathered weapons will have to go to a dealer to be transferred to your grandkids.

     Comment by Gerald Lester — February 3, 2013 @ 2:55 pm

186. 

     Of course Feinys’ bill won’t pass as it is written, damn thing was rough drafted over a year ago by some of her aides and others more as a “drastic warning and not meant to stick and even her group was surprised by NY draconian bill, how easily it passed and how little outcry by those the bill targeted. Of course no one in other 49 states is made a criminal as they in NY now are so once again they’ll clean their guns.

     Why should anyone join your fight to keep a gun when all you are doing is to try and hide behind the 2nd Amendment and if you win go right on pretending that the rest of Bill of Rights and Constitution still exist.

     You who are lost in cult of gun forget what was fought for in the beginning.

     You also forget that those who fought had never heard of the 2nd Amendment and even when brought to vote not all your mythical patriots thought it was necessary.

     The 2nd never was invoked. By the common folk and the loudest backers have been the greatest hackers of its intent.

     The damage is done and Finey’s and NY plus other ones are now going into effect almost in every state.

     The political and economic pressures from behind the scenes, flanking movements to you militia types.

     Comment by Hide Behind — February 3, 2013 @ 3:25 pm

187. 

     My definition of a PDW is what ever I can get a hold of in a time of immanent danger whether its my gun, knife, rod or even a broken bottle. What ever it takes to protect myself, wife, child or friends. The point being is to servive the attack.

     Comment by Peter Mitchell — February 3, 2013 @ 4:25 pm

188. 

     Here is a bit of old news everyone seems to have forgotten or at least I have not seen it mentioned.
     The Department of Justice allowed thousands of AR and AKs to go to the most dangerous criminal organizations on earth THE DRUG CARTELS, Now the Government feels it’s ok to arm the cartels with thousands of high powered black guns and millions of rounds of ammunition, then turn around and tell us they are bad? Also the funds used to in fast and furious were funds approved by whom? Congress and Obama, The cartels used the guns the DOJ supplied them with to murder a federal border agent. No one in the DOJ has been held accountable and Obama has pulled a Nixon and denied knowledge. Remember Eric Holder is as anti-second amendment as they get and yet he is directly responsible for handing guns over to criminals. If Congress feels it’s ok to arm Mexican Criminals what is stopping them from arming American Criminals or are they doing that too seen something about the ATF and a M4 they let some bad guys in Minneapolis have in the news last week. The government is also supplying guns ammo and training to the same people who are killing our GIs in Afghanistan. Ok for the Afghans and Iraqis to have them, but not us. Folks there is something very wrong in Washington!

     Comment by maddog458 — February 3, 2013 @ 4:29 pm

189. 

     @Benjamin
     >One very important item is missing here that should be top choice for
     >justifying the 2nd Amendment: ENSURING DEMOCRACY!

     Actually, democratic elements of political systems, including our republic, are very prone to inducing tyranny. Politicians “print” money (actually, they loan it into existence via their friend at the banking cartel, The Federal Reserve Bank) and use it to increase the size of government and “buy” votes from voters. Hitler was democratically elected.

     The justification of the Second Amendment is to ensure LIBERTY! All political systems tend to degrade into a tyrannical state, when The People are not well-armed and cannot effectively oppose and thwart it.

     @Carolyn
     >What they fail to admit is that the Pharmaceutical industry is partly responsible…

     Yes. Also, the pharmaceutical industry is responsible for drugs recently becoming the #1 cause of accidental death in the United States. (Drug deaths now surpass vehicular accidents in number.) Unlawful drugs contribute only a very small percentage to the total number too, yet we have a very damaging, unproductive, expensive and tyranny inducing “war on drugs” that we live under. Drug deaths are nearly all caused by prescription drugs!

     Comment by Calin Brabandt — February 3, 2013 @ 7:04 pm

190. 

     Based on the various disasterous legislative actions of our local, state and federal politicians I find it frightening that anyone would trust them to implement “reasonable and common sense solutions”.

     Try and find a copy of “Unintended Consequences”. It is a very interesting book, ficitonal for the most part but addressing 2nd Amendment issues.

     Comment by AFMemgr — February 3, 2013 @ 7:29 pm

191. 

     Everyone including those on the side of the Second Amendment seem to be missing the fact that the Second Amendment does NOT state or even indicate anything about hunting, or even personal self defense. Those rights were taken for granted because of past history of hunting and the “Castle Doctrine”. Therefore they were not addressed by the Second Amendment. What was addressed was “a well regulated militia, being necessary to a free state, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”. What it SAYS (not indicates) was that the Founding Fathers, the writers and signers of our Bill of Rights and Constitution, decided it was necessary, in order that “We the People” will always have the capability to “get up in arms” and take back CONTROL of OUR government, if it were to become oppressive! That IS WHAT IT STATES! Any other definition is not consistent with the original intent of the Second Amendment,the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and all the subsequent Amendments. It says what it means and It means what it says! Now for those who will misuse that to make the case that “militia” meant the military or States’ National Guards — if you look up the definition of “militia”, most dictionaries, especially older ones(recent have been revised by Liberal media!)define it as “an army of the PEOPLE or CITIZENS “as opposed to agovernment controlled army”. So it is obvious and evident from all of the discussions, by the Founding Fathers of the Constitution, that lead up to the final inclusion of the Second Amendment — that the PEOPLE were to keep a well regulated militia to deter and thwart any oppression of our freedoms by any government controlled military, foreign or DOMESTIC, and that therefore the “right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms — shall not be infringed”.
     The “militia” of that time eventually dissolved when it no longer seemed needed. In 1871, a concerned Army/Navy Journal Editor(name?) and Retired Civil War General Wingate, started the the National Rifle Association to fill the absence of the militia.
     While the NRA and other groups have strived to protect our firearms rights, it seems long overdue that those groups should unite in their efforts, and finally organize and maintain that “well regulated militia” our Founding Fathers intended with the inclusion of the Second Amendment to our Constitution.
     I say — “don’t tread on me!! What say ye?!?

     Comment by Guy W. Idea — February 3, 2013 @ 9:24 pm

192. 

     Once again, VOTE THESE FOOLS OUT OF OFFICE. Remove Feinstein, Polosi, and Bloomberg, just to name a few, from office. Obama and his hatchetman Biden are opportunistic liberals who use power and position for their own personal agenda, irregardless of the consequences. They use small children, the elderly and crime victims in a pathetic attempt to seek the passing of unconstitutional laws in tune with their vision for America. The American people have the power to make change…change in OUR Government, by the lawful removal of those in leadership roles. Continue to contact your Senator and Congressmen. Let them know you are fed up with the anti-gun rhetoric and irresponsible decisions being made in Washington D.C. and in other states where they can not even balance a budget or control immigration (um, California), and villifying gun owners through the liberal media (Morgan types who ia not even a U.S. Citizen). Let them know they can be replaced at the polls coming next election time, too. The time is NOW. EVERY letter, e-mail or call to your representative matters. Dont’ wait on the other guy or gal to do it or it’ll be too late. Wishing you all safety, prosperity and the freedom to keep and bear arms as GUARANTEED in The United States Constitution.

     Comment by RPK — February 3, 2013 @ 11:07 pm

193. 

     as mentioned, if they take all our weapons [ home and self defense one's included ]
     we will be sheep and cattle led to slaughter. they will continue their efforts
     to eventully ban all guns completely which equals NO MORE FREEDOM.

     Comment by ron — February 3, 2013 @ 11:24 pm

194. 

     Wow so my AR 15 will be grandfathered, ya right, I won’t hold my breath… Just about everything I own is a semi-automatic… I guess they can ban them but getting people to comply is another matter……This isn’t really about weapons, it is about control and the only way they can take complete control of the people is to take their weapons….

     Comment by Bob Velon — February 4, 2013 @ 12:34 am

195. 

     We elected these people because we trust them. They need to understand that if they wish to stay in office, they need our vote. Maybe we should choose NOT to re-elect them. These weapons bans are rediculous. Over abusive politicians need to rethink their role, and place within the government. We have a right to arm ourselves the way WE see fit. Target shooting, Hunting, and sport shooting are freedoms we enjoy in the U.S.A.. Get real, or get a real job. On election day, we will have the power to decide.

     Comment by David F. — February 4, 2013 @ 12:51 am

196. 

     All I can say is that the Gun does not kill someone, it it the person behind the gun. I think it is my right to own any gun that I want, as long as (all) my background is good. It will be a cold day in hell if someone try’s to take my gun away from me. You never know when you might have to defend you’re family from some drug dealer or someone trying to break in to do harm, not in my house. Thanks

     Comment by Constant — February 4, 2013 @ 1:19 am

197. 

     George Washington said it best and I Quote

     “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them … which would include their own Govt.”

     ~ George Washington ~

     Comment by John Trojanowski — February 4, 2013 @ 10:12 am

198. 

     First of all, be assured that if Feinstein’s bill passes, the outcome will be but the first step to general and final consfication of privately-held firearems. The way the bill is written, although humorous to many of us, is designed purposely to sweep with the broadest broom, to eliminate as many firearms the first time out. If any of you wonder why our govment, as Pap would say in Mark Twain’s Huckleberry Finn, want to take our arms, is that it well knows that there is a civilian army in this country, which needs but an overwhelming crystalling reason for it to take action, plus they are corrupt at heart, have one illegal acts against the people, and fear being held accountable for them. Their actions are those of guilty cowards.There are so many dreadful and devastating arms and devices of technology already aligned against us, therefore, no concerted action could be successful in an engagement. Drones, Hellfire missles, sonic cannon, superlasers, sophisticated sniper rifles, infared night vision devices, and a host of surveillance devices that are already being used. In any potential conflict, the only way our people could triumph is for alliances of trusted friends, never more than a few, having no contact with any other groups. And, by the way, I advise all of you to not include your name when you make these posts. There are plenty of eyes out there whose intent is mere evil. I am not a religous person at all, but God bless all of you REAL Americans and keep the faith in the potentiality of our republic!

     Comment by Tacitus — February 4, 2013 @ 10:17 am

199. 

     “Stupid is, as stupid does.”

     Comment by rev. dave — February 4, 2013 @ 12:35 pm

200. 

     @ Calin-
     I see you clearly misunderstood my message. It is about freedom not necessity that gun owners truly know deep down that some weapons and features are excessive beyond reason. You know guns are modular and the parts to change weapons in whatever manner you choose are available. This is AMERICA we are free to have these items of excess (like the Viper)-it is an American value. Your right, the government does not care about you (or the 11 million illegals that have not be screened roaming your home), it cares about itself. When there is a disater all esstential personal are notified of evacuation plans, and are granted suppilies (yup including ammo)- so the goverment can sustain its force. Regular citizens are left on their own. Do not panic whatever idiot laws come out the Feds are not interested in your guns as long as you are not doing anything stupid with them. No Agent or Officer will waste his time. I am FOR the freedom of Americans to choose whatever they want. That’s AMERICA.

     Comment by Patrick — February 4, 2013 @ 1:06 pm

201. 

     I haven’t read the list yet, but from what the previous posters have said about it confirms my suspicions that Feinstein and ALL like her are poster kids for IDIOTS. The single most important thing ingrained into my mind and all others that served in the military is this…THE RIGHT OF SELF DEFENSE WILL NEVER BE DENIED! Maybe all worthless politicians should consider that when they make it to where the criminals are the only ones that have firearms. I took and oath to defend this country from all enemies foriegn and domestic and it seems there are an awful lot of domestic enemies now days.

     Comment by Andy — February 4, 2013 @ 5:53 pm

202. 

     Many great comments on this blog. I especially like John’s (197) regarding George Washington and Bruce’s (154). I hope many of you have read Barrack Obama’s Rules for Revolution by David Horowitz ( http://frontpagemag.com/2009/david-horowitz/barack-obama%E2%80%99s-rules-for-revolution-the-alinsky-model-by-david-horowitz/).
     It’s frightening but quite true I’m afraid. If we do not keep our eye on things we’re going to be in a really bad place most like to call America. Land of the free and home of the brave, not so if the radicals continue to brainwash people and dilute basic values. The crazy thing is their idea of a Utopian Society and overthrowing our way of life comes with no plan, just that the current one is no good and it should be changed by any means possible. Which includes lying, cheating etc… per Saul Alinsky. The President has on many occasions quoted Alinsky’s teaching, very scary!

     Comment by Ricky Bobby — February 5, 2013 @ 3:41 pm

203. 

     Lets see. According to Professor Feinstein, the only firearm I have that I should be able to legally posses is my 4 shot Marlin .45-70 Guide Gun. My 14 shot, bought at a gun store in New Jersey, Marlin 60 .22LR is much too dangerous with it’s high capacity, non removable tube-feed magazine. Just forget about my .223/5.56mm Stag Arms Model 1 Carbine I bought at the Penn Gun show at the Armory a few years ago. Don’t be alarmed Ms. Feinstein, the thorough, professional Licensed Gun Dealer selling said firearm pointed out the ones I could not buy, being a resident of New Jersey. He found a nice New Jersey compliant Model 1 I could call my own. Don’t be alarmed Ms. Feinstein, he checked my NJDL and my NJ Firearms ID, with my right thump print on the back of it. Those fella’s even did a backround check on me, because they couldn’t legally take my word that I was, “OK”. Ms. Feinstein. You should go to work with me one day to meet some of the fine upstanding convicted felons I deal with on a daily basis. Yes. I work at a prison. No. Rehabilitation DOES NOT WORK. Yes. When, I’m guessing, over half these guys get out, they will commit more crimes. They will hit the streets to slash their way through a sea of sheep, because all the sheep dogs had their canines removed and were declawed. One more thing mama. Have you seen any of these dangerous gun weilding individuals run into a Police Station, shooting everything that moves? How about a Miltary Base like say…. Ft. Knox, where probably, even the secretaries are armed? The reason why Ms. Feinstein is they are all SHEEP DOGS. Coyotes and Wolves generally avoid Sheep Dogs because it is way to risky. Ms. Feinstein, please sleep well knowing there are alot of Coyotes and Wolves release from prison everyday. Good night mama. Have to get up early to try and be the best Sheep Dog I can be.

     Comment by Kenny from The Fed — February 5, 2013 @ 9:23 pm

204. 

     An acceptable personal defense weapon is adequate training. I don’t care if you have a nuke, if you don’t know how to use it you won’t be defending anybody with it. An unarmed but capable black belt is more lethal than any Sandy Hook shooter ever was.

     Comment by Michael — February 6, 2013 @ 3:59 pm

205. 

     Americans need to wake up and see what is going on in Washington DC. Government is out of control, its obvious to me that Tyranny is going on. First the president does 23 executive orders to disarm law bidding Americans then today feb 7 2013 they are pushing to have the right to kill Americans if they are labeled domestic terrorist. If this is not Tyranny than what is?

     Comment by Ricardo — February 7, 2013 @ 9:10 pm

206. 

     By Feinstein’s standards, my 1896 bolt action Mauser is a feared weapon of modern warfare because the original 29″ barrel is threaded to accept a flash suppressor and it has an integral bayonet lug. I lived in San Francisco the first time they pulled this crap and I am amazed how they have dusted off the exact rhetoric the same voices blathered back then. Rust never sleeps, you can’t fix stupid, and just when you think it might be safe to drop your pack, the idiots prove why term limits are an excellent idea. Refuse to do nothing – get involved or get ready for even more “reasonable” restrictions on our freedoms.

     Comment by steve houser — February 7, 2013 @ 9:32 pm

207. 

     Folks it’s far worse then most of you think this is not only about guns now. Obama and Holden through J. Brennan the soon to be director of the CIA, Have given themself extrajudicial authority to kill any American here or abroad they decide is a threat. All your constitutional protections and RIGHTS ARE NO LONGER IN PLACE. No more innocent until proven guilty, NO MORE due process. The Government can Murder you freely and with impunity anytime they decide too. They have already murdered 3 American Citizens without a trial. All they need is to decide YOU ARE A THREAT AND BANG YOU ARE DEAD!!! COMPLIMENTS OF THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE CIA and the blind eye of congress and the Supreme Court. GO Democrats!

     Comment by maddog458 — February 8, 2013 @ 2:06 pm

208. 

     this country is under attack from the enemy within…..meaning your government does not give two hoots in hell about you its citizens. this ban on guns is just a diversion to keep everyone focussed and upset while they rape and pillage the very country they take an oath to protect. hell they just don’t want to ban certain weapons….the government despite what they say, want all of our weapons. WAKE UP PEOPLE. they did it in germany, what happened? the whole populace was disarmed under the guise of homeland security…then the military had free reign to act and do anything they wanted to its own citizenry. they built camps aka like fema camps…..they slaughtered millions. if you think it can’t happen here, why do they build fema camps with fences and razor wire? THINK ABOUT IT . YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AT ALL.

     Comment by sled29 — March 16, 2013 @ 8:48 am

209. 

     Has anyone ever read the Dick Act of 1902? Also known as the Efficiency Of Militia Bill H.R.11654 of June 28th 1902, It invalidates all so called gun-control laws. It also divides the Militia into three distinct and separate entitles

     The three classes H.R.11654 provides for are the organized militia; henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, territory of District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular Army. The Militia encompasses every able male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type and as many as they can afford.

     The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S.
     Constitution and Bill Of Rights. Etc. Etc.

     If you can obtain a copy of this Bill(H.R.11654) it is very en-lighting, and as important in some ways as the Bill Of Rights. So to answer the question which gun would I want for my personal defense is, what ever is comparable to what our military has.

     Comment by Mike Cook — March 16, 2013 @ 4:02 pm

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